Eye-witnesses's Accounts of Pentagon Crash Don't Add Up
the Flash animation Pentagon
Strike, we have received a great number of emails. Many of them are
thankful for the animation and the important questions which it raises
- questions which, until now, have only been discussed among a relatively
small group. Others are not as thankful:
From : USA
basturds! Fuck you! There is my freedom of speach[sic]! You have no
clue about dog shit! Did any of you morons who put this together have
anyone you know die[sic] on 911? I'd like a chance to explain to you
in person my veiws... but it would be a waste of my time. So go support
morons like Micheal More[sic] and John Kerry...
like a constructive dialogue. And then there was this one:
me how completely disrespectful you can be. As I read your article describing
how a small commuter plane, as opposed to a Boeing 757 flew into the
Pentagon on September 11, I was amazed that you would have the audacity
to proclaim such things. I find it interesting how you would tell all
of those who lost loved ones on that flight just how they perished.
Because, believe me, eyewitness accounts are not evidence. The plane
taking off with the names of the passengers, and then the plane crashing
and those passengers going with it is. I think that this website should
be eliminated, and that you owe an apology to those who lost someone
on that fateful day. And if you're so into conspiracy theories and so
against the U.S., move to Russia.
we have said before, we do not believe that asking for and searching out
the truth of the attacks on 911 is in any way disrespectful of those who
lost their lives, to their family and friends. How better to honor them
than to uncover the truth and bring it to the light of day?
agree that eyewitness accounts are not evidence, at least not very reliable
evidence, as the following messages will illustrate. But this writer suggests
that the real evidence is that the plane took off, it crashed, and the
passengers went with it. We agree that American Airlines flight 77 took
off and that its passengers were never seen again. But this is not evidence
that it was flight 77 that hit the Pentagon.
final remarks are a good indication of the mood in the US today: intolerance.
He suggests that "this website should be eliminated". It is
the mark of the true believer that anyone who does not believe should
not be allowed to express his or her views.
is the type of bogus "freedom" that the US now represents around
if we, and thousands of other people and sites who are looking at the
evidence, are correct and the attacks were an inside job, be it from elements
within the US or in collaboration with Israel, such a finding will be
more than many Americans could bear. It will put into question everything
they "know" and believe. They do not want their identities shattered
by the truth.
two messages above give us a glimpse into the mind sets of such people.
What would be the consequences of a future unveiling of the truth on a
grand scale? Might someone or something want such a grand unveiling precisely
for the chaos it would cause?
to those in the White House, the editors of Signs of the Times are not
killing people; we are not calling for a religious war against Moslems
or Christians or Jews; we are not lying to the world's people in order
to drum up support for the invasions of other countries; we are not passing
legislation that removes the fruit of years of struggle for freedoms and
are asking a few questions. We are pointing to problems with the official
that upsets some people. Curiously, it upsets those who fervently believe
the US is fighting for freedom.
have also received a number of emails from people who claim to have been
on the scene at the Pentagon, with some eyewitnesses to the crash. What
is revealing about these descriptions is that they are very different
one from another, as well as diverging from the photos and official testimony.
See for yourself:
video. I have the "9/11 In Plane Sight" video. After watching
it I was very disturbed by it.
Dad took a team of firefighters to the scene at the Pentagon and arrived
there on the morning of Sept. 12th.
I called and asked him after watching the video:
when you arrived at the Pentagon, how close were you to the building?"
He replied: "within 100ft."
I said: "I just watched a very disturbing video concerning the
attack at the Pentagon. Did you see upon
your arrival any parts, luggage, seats, etc., indicating a plane had
hit the building?"
was very quiet for a few minutes and responded: "You
know, I did not see any indication at all that a plane had hit the building."
had never questioned what he was told until seeing the video. He, like
most, can't imagine our government covering up such an incident much
less, the possibility of being responsible for it.
results of the attack on 9/11 have been clear. The war upon "terrorism"
has been used to make war upon our liberty.
Subject: The Pentagon and 9/11
it may concern,
my teenage sons was telling my husband and I last night about your web
page. I looked at it and wrote to a friend of mine telling her about
it. I wrote her because she works for
NASA, about a block from the Pentagon. She was at work
that day and has friends that work at the Pentagon.
a mutual friend and I a long time to reach her that day. She finally
wrote us back late that evening saying it had taken her a long time
to get home due to all the traffic and people trying to get out of the
area. We were worried about her as we knew she worked very close to
the Pentagon. She said she was okay, but there was a lot of confusion
everywhere. They did not return to work for awhile afterward.
that day very well myself. I never saw any plane either. My friend wrote
back this morning and I thought I'd share this with all of you.
what she said in her email to me:
I saw this awhile ago. I don't know what to think. A
guy I work with was there, pulling bodies out of the damn building.
He never saw a plane either. No
one I know who was there ever saw a plane.... and I
know a few people who work at the Pentagon. None of them saw a plane.
My friend Chris's wife was hospitalized for injuries due to this 'crash'
and she swears there was no plane.. there
was some whistling noise and the building exploded.
She said this while she was in the hospital. If you ask her now she'll
just say she doesn't know what happened. I find that rather interesting."
I'd pass this on.
Location: United States
it was an airplane. I was here at the
Pentagon 911. I saw airplane parts on the ground the next day.
The video asks what happened to the fuel - ask the people that still
work here who have damaged lungs from the smoke and fuel. Ask the people
who were horribly burned. Ask the firefighters who worked for nearly
three days to put the fire out. Oh, and that huge orange fireball? Hello!
the pilot was incompetent. That's why he crashed the plane into the
ground on the outer ring. If he had been a better pilot, he would have
brought the plane down into the courtyard, or onto the roof - killing
thousands instead of less than 200.
realize the plane hit the building in a place that had recently been
renovated? The outer walls of the Pentagon had been reinforced with
kevlar and a steel network "mesh" to prevent collapse. Unbroken
windows? Not surprising when you consider they were new, nearly 2"
thick bomb-proof glass. The video quotes Lee Evey, who is in charge
of the Pentagon Renovation, but does it quote him on the remarks he
made concerning how well the Pentagon's new "outer defenses"
performed, and how many lives those new measures saved?
going to argue with all the fools who want to believe these kinds of
conspiracy videos - I was there 911, and I was there 912, and all the
doing a check on the IP address of the above correspondent, we realised
that the above message came from the Pentagon itself! We wonder if Rummie
has seen our Flash Presentation, or maybe Cheney or good 'ol Karl Rove?
have never denied that something hit the Pentagon, nor that pieces
of this something might have been found near the Pentagon.
The famous photo of a bit that looks like it may have come from an American
Airlines flight was said by the DoD itself as having come from another
craft at the heliport and in the path of the something,
according to Thierry Meyssan in his book The
have also speculated that the constant replaying of the second plane hitting
the south tower of the WTC set in people's minds the image of a commercial
airliner hitting a building. Played over and over, this set people up
to remember the crash at the Pentagon in the same way.
we have some eyewitnesses who were on the roads near the Pentagon.
Location: United States
us here in Virginia who were driving next to the Pentagon when the plane
crashed had our windowshields crack from the deafening noise of the
plane so close overhead. We watched the plane hit the Pentagon. It was
don't deny that something hit the building, and we can imagine
that the experience was truly horrible.
...@iwon.com From : US
of mine just forwarded a link to a video of the 9/11 crash at the Pentagon.
I'm not sure where you got most of your quotes but they couldn't any
further from the truth. I was stuck in traffic on the 395 HOV exit ramp
trying to get on Route 27 North directly in front of the Pentagon when
the extremely large plane hit. There wasn't
any damage to the ground, similar to the pics you showed of other plane
crashes because it hit the building directly, it did not skid or skip
into the Pentagon. The
plane came in approx 75-100 off the ground on such an angle that it
hit the building directly. It was approximately 20 cars
in front of me when it passed over Route 27 and believe me the noise
was deafening from the engines it was going so fast. My windows and
sun roof were open so I heard it coming in from over the Arlington Cemetary
and was able to see it pass in front of my car and hit the Pentagon.
The plane was not wavering at all, the wings were perfectly still and
whoever was flying it, had to be well trained. The explosion caused
my car to rock back and forth, we were so close. So, as fun as your
video must have been to produce, it's absolutly incorrect.
we never claimed the plane hit the ground. That was other eyewitnesses
whose claims were reported in the press. But Greg's testimony in no way
invalidates our research. We agree something came in and hit
the Pentagon. If a plane of some sort came in over a car, and it was only
100 feet above an open sunroof, we have no doubt it would have made a
lot of noise and the shock, both physical and emotional, would have been
quite strong. Take that experience and amplify it with the constant war
mongering in the press for revenge, and the horror that WE, the great
United States of America, had finally tasted something of the violence
that just about every other nation has faced, and memories of the event
can be quite easily shaped and distorted.
next message gives an interesting example of this phenomenon.
Location: United States
someone wasted a lot of time making this video. I was stuck in traffic
50 yards south of the Pentagon and watched as the plane flew so low
that it filled my windshield as it passed. After it hit we all jumped
out our cars to get a better look. What kind of plane was it? Who cares?
It was obviously a very large commercial jet sticking halfway out of
a well-made building. Did I hear a whoosh? Don't remember,
I was listening to news reports on the radio at the time. I realize
that memory can be selective, but what is really the point? Whatever
your politics, this clearly happened. You people need to get a life.
saw "a very large commercial jet sticking halfway out of a well-made
building". Well, someone got rid of that plane very quickly because
the following picture was shot just after the crash:
Anyone see a large commercial jet sticking halfway out of the building?
The first reports coming from the Pentagon on that day stated that a bomb
had in fact gone off outside of the building.
next eyewitness has yet another explanation for the missing plane.
Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:17:31 -0700
Subject: Pentagon strike
wrong. I was there. The plane was seen as it hit the Pentagon by about
300 people. Yes, FBI took all flim [sic]. The
plane actually came in at a downward angle and plowed into the dirt
under the Pentagon. Please read about this event more
before spreading propaganda.
The plane buried itself in the dirt underneath the Pentagon! We suggest
that Mr. Buchanan, unfortunately we do not know his rank, look a little
more closely at the hard research done by people who wish to know the
really is funny. So many of our correspondents really seem to believe
that we made this all up just because we had nothing better to do!
"s... t...r" <....@msn.com>
Subject: Pentagon Strike video/articles
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 08:37:21 -0400
saw, for the first time, your articles and video called Pentagon Strike.
The only reason I saw it is that it is spoken of today in the Washington
Post. It's three years after 9/11 and you still have this posted. This
amazes me. It's very clear from all this "information" that
you are on the other side of the ocean from the US, that you have not
talked to anyone really there. I live and work in Washington DC. I'm
an ordinary person with a cleaning business. I remember 9/11 vividly
and will never forget it. We knew people in the Pentagon at the time
of the strike because we clean inside the building every month. These
are not military people, just ordinary contractor types and secretaries.
They lost friends. I have friends who did see the plane, the 757, circle
low over the city, evidently having missed it's target the first time,
to circle back to hit the Pentagon. Evidently you have no idea how close
the Pentagon is to Washington DC. It is not in some remote area. It
is clearly visible from many places. Many eye witnesses I saw on local
television here immediately after 9/11 saw the jet and watched in horror.
There are many vantage points. The fact that the jet disintegrated doesn't
surprise me too much.
that had been going on was exactly for such an "accident"
-- a larger jet crashing into the structure. That is why more of the
rings were not disturbed. The reason for the few casualties, for your
information, was that, thank God, they had not yet moved all the personnel
back into this new area, so it was still not filled with people. So
they had fewer casualties.
talk about things in France or the UK. Please talk about what you know,
because I was here. You were not. Your film and commentaries are really
sickening, in the light of life lost. Why is it that your film does
not include the phone conversation, made from on board flight #77, by
the famous woman reporter, whose husband just retired? She told exactly
what was happening while on the phone, and described the approach to
the Pentagon! Was she part of a conspiracy???Shame on you all for desecrating
the memory of the dead. You should know better by now that your original
theory does not hold any weight or water at all.
you will not print this letter because it contradicts you. But you should
at least have a conscience! At least stop calling this despicable film
the truth! It's the far-away fantasy of someone who was safe in his/her
home at the time of this terrible event. You will never know the horror.
something hit the Pentagon. Something was in the sky and was
seen by hundreds of people. Those who had been watching TV or listening
to the radio would have known by the time of the Pentagon attack that
the WTC had been hit by two jets. They would have known that others had
been hijacked, or would have associated anything heading towards the Pentagon
with the two other hijackings. They would have assumed the same thing
was happening again.
us it seems curious that whatever hit the Pentagon that day, struck the
part of the building that had just been renovated. However, this doesn't
raise any questions in the mind of the author of the above email. We assume
he puts it off to a simple twist of fate, luck. As we have said elsewhere,
this strikes us as extremely problematic. But maybe we have read too many
mystery novels, where the killer will fake an attack against him in order
to throw suspicion on someone else. If the planners of the attack were
in the Pentagon, what better way for them to appear as victims!
information in the Flash presentation is simply a collection of facts
about the events of that day. We do not state any "theories".
As such we are not "disregarding the truth", despite what many
readers claim, quite the contrary in fact. We are standing up for it and
demanding that the unanswered questions be answered. As far as we know,
and we have checked, there exists no website or official government report
which explains how a 757 plane could have punched a 14 feet wide circular
hole through 6 reinforced concrete walls, after having first disintegrated
on impact with the outside of the building, leaving barely any trace of
at it this way. If the US (or any) government states that something is
"the truth", but does not provide any evidence to back up their
claim, and if there is evidence to show that what they have said is actually
unlikely to be "the truth", then is it not reasonable to assume
that the government may be attempting to hide something? Furthermore,
in this case, is it not reasonable that some people might try and find
out what the real truth is?
think that it is not only reasonable for us to search for the truth but
it is also our responsibility. It is not however our responsibility
to attempt to defend the government and explain on their behalf WHY
they are not providing all the facts to the people. When
clear questions are raised about the official government story, it is
the government's responsibility to clear up those questions.
the above emails, we have simply pointed out the inconsistencies of the
various eyewitnesses. We do not base any conclusions on these testimonies
along, but rather we use them to add to the mounting pile of evidence
which suggests that the US government is lying to the world about what
happened at the Pentagon on the morning of September 11th 2001.
on the problems of the official story on the Pentagon, please see our
on the Pentagon strike.
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