||Why are you now letting people
physically visit you, even if it is only until
||It is a
temporary cosmic duty that comes with the cosmic job. An
ugly new wave of evil from the New World Order will soon pass
over the planet and make free travel even more difficult for
aspiring individuals. So, it was “now or never” for me
to “come out of the closet” and provide some access to those
who need it, which obviously includes yourself.
deeply and sincerely appreciate this, but won’t it wear you
out to suddenly start meeting with probably desperate or
severely confused and spiritually greedy people after years of
simple professional life and spiritual privacy beyond cults
and traditional authorities?
for me it is like suddenly deciding to do the dishes after
letting them pile up for a long time. Each visitor I am
getting lately is like a dish I have to wash. It’s an
onerous chore I have been avoiding.
Naqshbandi Sufis appear to be very afraid of your Sufi Master
Oracle and your Qutub Sarmouni articles. They have been
slandering you endlessly as an allegedly psychotic person or
dangerously deluded cult leader.
are in great danger in Western countries due to their intimate
associations with Muslims of the East. Muslims are being
demonized by the New World Order. Unfortunately,
they are quite insane and full of shit about
themselves due to a misunderstanding of Real Sarmoun
Principles. I can only reach and liberate a few of
them. The majority will perish over the next five to
Another issue is the slander about
“insanity”, which is hardly worth commenting on. I am
definitely not an average dull member of
any mechanical, conditioned culture or society
on Earth. As a real individual I am an
extreme misfit, or what is called a “deluded” or “extremely
maladjusted” person. Of course, during my career as an
international management consultant, no senior manager ever
said to me that they believed I was “insane” and should seek
help. In fact, the American Academy of Science invited
me to join their organization because of significant research
I had published in the field of cognitive science.
Again, those scientists did not react toward my work in the
manner of emotionally disturbed and frightened Naqshbandi Sufi
authorities who hate greater spiritual truth than they
As for the “Cult Leader” thing, it
is true that I deliberately formed a kind of “cult” over
twenty-five years ago which I deliberately collapsed
after having teams of people carry out extensive
spiritual research projects in India and the Mideast, the
fruits of which I am finally in a position to start releasing
to the public for the good of all aspiring souls on
Earth. Until now the technology was not available to
disseminate these fantastic blessings free of charge.
For instance, if you will go on my Rudra Chakrin website, you
will notice that you can download “Voices of
Yoga” which brings a huge blessing to
any sincere listening heart that can assimilate it. That
is just the start of what is coming. And none of it will
require that anyone join a Gary Chicoine Baba Kalki
Cult. If I put out good seed on my bird-feeder, I do not
require that the birds come and sit on my windowsill and
worship me over it. Besides, I have already experienced
being worshipped as Shiva for thousands of years in India: Why
would I suddenly want worship from cynical, doubting
Westerners? To what end? I am not another Da Free
John or Guru Maharaj Sant Ji. And look at poor Sathya
Sai Baba. He obviously loves bloating himself with
worshippers. And look at his private life! He has
become a scandalous Hindu Michael Jackson because of his
sex-life with little boys and young men. If he wants to
be a Real Avatar, he will have to do
better! But how few know that he was not
Shirdi Sai Baba? No! He is the
reincarnation of a disgruntled Siddhani Woman, Babajan
from Maharashtra who was jealous of
Shirdi Sai Baba’s popularity. That is why she changed
her name from the feminine Bibijan to the
masculine Babajan. And look at an old
photo of her and how she wore her hair all bushed-out the way
Sathya Sai wears his! It is a dead giveaway.
Besides, only a reincarnated lady would love boys as a big
secret appetite. The poor dear is very seriously
confused about herself in a very occult way. Who
else could tell you all this but a real Seer of
really have a Big Divine Power working through
afraid the answer is yes, but it does not work
as a personal faculty of my bodily self as such. It is
both too vast and too potent to operate other than
naturally and innocently.
What should happen happens,
whether it is ordinary or extraordinary. The greater the
Power, the more useless it is for people to
clutch at it or try to gain it as a personal
power for impressing others who would then do things for them
in exchange for divine favors or empowerments of them.
Therefore, I have no personal power, yet Cosmic
Power is an aspect of My Cosmic Self. In this respect, I
am more of a Taoist than a Hindu Siddha or a
Muslim Sufi. My present cosmic mission does not include being
an impressively miraculous dogmatic Eastern spiritual
leader. The more potent the Power at work, the fewer the
people who can perceive it or identify it with the individual
it works through and around.
you feel about people gloating that they have discovered your
given name as Gary Chicoine or that you came originally from
That seems to mean to them that the
Cosmic and Divine Truth I speak does not have to be heard by
anyone for some reason.
As a Divine Spirit, I am not from
America. My body is from America, but I am
a global and cosmic citizen of the Universe.
Parabrahm is My Native Land. It is a state
of Pure Being. Only ignorance
of outer social selves wants to imagine that My Real
Self should be called Gary Chicoine. But
in Cosmic Language, AUI, “Gary Chicoine” vibrates
as a very positive and uplifting
name. My detractors would be fortunate to have
such a wonderful personal name, but of course they do not know
“what’s in a name” in the Total Universe. For them, it’s
that “He’s only a Westerner” shit. It just
means they do not want to meditate on the benefits of having
Shivavatar Kalki in a personal physical body on the Earth at
then, are people going to recognize you?
you mean emotionally disturbed prisoners of their conditioning
who believe this or that Eastern Religion is
Truth? Are such “people” actual
people? An authentic individual may
intuitively sense My Presence, but a mere social animal can
only emotionally believe or intellectually disbelieve.
You need to look more deeply into the unreality
of terms like “recognize” and
of people believe you make too many outrageous claims, but
some believe your oracles and articles are slightly
useful. What is your opinion of their
opinions and judgments of immature, undeveloped so-called
“people” reflect their current level of spiritual
potential. Whoever or whatever they have opinions about
cannot be seen as a Divine and Cosmic Superperception sees
such beings and things. Look more deeply into the
opinion-holders and what is driving them. Learn to stop
being a Social Self and Awaken in your Cosmic Self. Your
Cosmic Self sees clearly what the whole social
“Spiritual Scene” is really about. What sheep
and goats imagine about the farmer tells us nothing
about the farmer or what he is really doing on the
you place so much importance on people reading through your
breaks up cognitive blockages, prepares real Yoga and
transmits Cosmic Information to prepare the future for
surviving authentic individuals.
yourself were not You, but some other individual
just privately living a basic life on Earth that
includes spiritual development, what would
You say about You?
say, “This guy is either utterly, hopelessly deluded or so
far-out that he is beyond ordinary human comprehension.
Now, since the Earth and humanity are in such deep shit, we
probably should get clear about this guy before it is too
late. Even if he isn’t exactly what he says, he is a
huge provocation we probably need for our learning
process. It is too cheap and easy to just ignore him
without looking into the kind of questions and issues he keeps
bringing up. I do not, for instance, often meet anyone
with his scope of knowledge and variety of insights into the
human condition. If he isn’t God, he ought
that you can empathize with the dilemma of the spiritual
seeker about those who claim to be
Avatars. On my part, I am not sure that
“Avatar” is not just an ambiguous title created by the mass
mind of India, just as Christians and Jews have the idea of
The Messiah and the Buddhists The Maitreya Buddha. For
me, what I like about you is your Oracles and Articles.
The Oracles are often uncanny and put me in another dimension
of myself, giving a fresh sense of direction; the Articles
resonate with my own inner truth and often contain powerful
spiritual insights I either do not find elsewhere or at least
not as articulate and broad-minded. So, does it really
matter in the end about having a title like
all about Intuition and Faith in the Heart, regardless of what
terms or titles they are expressed in. So, the question
becomes: What are the necessary functions of Intuition
and Faith in the Heart of an aspiring causal-bodied Soul, a
reincarnating ego or human individual? Faith is a
natural Divine Gift arising in the Heart through the
Atman, Real Self, which is a potential Godself
Awakening beginning to stir in the Inner Core of the
Heart. So when someone says that he or she is “God”, it
cannot really mean that you, the considerers, of
such a claim or announcement are at core different from “God”
in the essence of the Divine Realms beyond the physical,
subtle and causal worlds of Existence. If the Divine
within you suddenly sees the Divine manifesting in this
person, then the Divine within you causes you to bow
with respect and feeling faith because the Divine in you is
grasping the opportunity to accelerate the Divine
progress. Hence, the transactions of belief or
disbelief, faith or skepticism, are arranged in the Divine by
Divine Power, Shakti. They aren’t in the
hands of the outer causal egos working in the physical brains
that try to judge by appearances or social gossip. This
is why the numbers or quantity of social units who believe or
disbelieve, accept or reject, any claimant to a
spiritual title or honorific has nothing to do with the
quality of the faith or skepticism in any given
individual. On the sociological level, what is happening
is merely sociological one way or the other. The social
self, whatever its belief, disbelief, acceptance or rejection,
about anyone, is not the real self or authentic
individual. All the big spiritual gossip forums on the
Web are collections of social selves and not real
individuals. Almost anything can trigger their
hopeful greed or their nasty disdain. They do not
belong to themselves. Each has what the Nagual
Seers call a Foreign Installation or
Flyer controlling their mind, judgments and
so-called “free choices”. They are victims of what Colin
Wilson calls the Specter, what Rudolf Steiner
calls the Guardian of the Threshold and what
Gurdjieff calls Buffers and False
Personality. To actually see what
is really going on with the vast majority of “spiritual”
seekers or adherents to this or that “spiritual” hero,
authority or traditionalist can be quite
horrifying. It requires tremendous inner
strength. In fact, psychologically, I would recommend
that you spend a lot of time on my Carlos
Castaneda and Vernon Howard oracles to increase your
Heightened Awareness and Inner Strength. In fact, the
greater your Awareness, the more you will need
Inner Strength because your social
normalcy is going to be completely fucked over.
You will have to learn what the Nagual Seers call
“Stalking”. You will have to adopt a whole
new personal policy to psychologically and sociologically
survive your relationships and the ordinary world of masses of
zombies who call themselves “sane and normal” and who claim
they live in the “real world”.
notice that you give a lot of attention to a probable
connection of the Nagual Death Defier, Xoxonapo, with Padma
Sambhava. May I ask what is your relationship with Padma
Sambhava is always here on Earth. I could not and would
not have come without His supportive presence or I would truly
have gone mad. He is My Sanity! He
is what Chögyam Trungpa calls “Basic
Sanity”! Strangely, Basic Sanity
functions toward humanity, including ordinary
seekers, as what the Tibetans call Crazy
Wisdom. In short, the more aware a spiritual
master on Earth is of the Real Universe, the
Dharmadhatu, which includes zillions of
“Aliens”, as well as of N-dimensions of Existence as
tattwas (levels) of bodies and worlds, the more
He is bound to be regarded as “Crazy” or “Insane” by
Earthbound and ignorant everyday “people” or Flyer
Puppets. Padma Sambhava provides a living Cosmic Sanity
then function as a kind of Superguru or Overguide of Avatars
or extremely advanced Godmen and Godwomen who carry out Divine
missions on Earth?
really. That is a human perspective,
whereas it is more of an inhuman plus
superhuman perspective that you would need to
understand as the Basic Sanity Cosmic Support System.
You will have to meditate on all that for a very long time to
just get a glimpse of it.
Padma Sambhava an example of the kind of Supramentalized
Physical Human Being that Aurobindo and the Mother were aiming
to personally produce but failed to?
you could most definitely say that! You are fortunate to
make that connection.
Your Divine Mission entail working on anything
||Publicly for humanity as a whole, it
does not. Privately, for myself, my wife
and my closest associates, it is
you are living a very heavy, far-out double
count on that! Any mature and genuine
individual must learn to live such a double life of
Service and Sadhana, both of which
will be unfolding forever. Mine is a Universe of Eternal
Realization with no self-deceptive Final
you are lately opening a door for a few souls like myself to
actually meet you personally, is there any profile You would
suggest as to the kind of person You are willing to allow an
audience with You?
doesn’t work that way. It is all up to the Supreme
Power, ParamShakti. She
decides. If someone should come here, they will
feel an inexplicable strong impulse from within to suddenly
take a mad adventure to and in Lappland at whatever expense
with even some possible risk to their affairs; whereas if
someone should not come here, they will find
themselves deeply at peace to remain where they are and work
on an Inner Connection though a Communion and possible
Telepathy, which they will find themselves rationalizing in
accord with their cognitive pattern of spiritual
judgment. Everything is Shakti!
Virtually nothing is in the hands of the seekers. Some
will even necessarily be plunged into dilemmas and
contradictions of indecision, which will also secretly be
Shakti, Power, at work! Only Divine Beings of the
Mahakaran sharir or Supracausal Body have
Icchashakti, True Free Will. Below that,
everything is mainly self-deception and Maya,
illusory considerings. That is why nothing less than
genuine Intuitive Heightened Awareness and Faith are needed to
form a bridge in the Soul, which implies tuning-in to
Also, since I live in such a remote
place in an arctic wilderness, and since there is a near
future time-limit, time-window, the whole thing is also a
suppose you would explain to me how the Test
||No. It could potentially spoil
it for others.
there anything you could tell me about your connection with
tell you a story about My Cosmic Support. When it became
necessary for me around 1980 to form a temporary cult
in order to gather extensive spiritual information
through research teams in India and the Middle East, I was
visited by leading authorities of the Institute of John G.
Bennett. One of them in fact was a Lord from the House
of Lords in England. My home at that time was at the
foot of the Beartooth Mountains in Clark, Wyoming. It is
the most holy place of the Crow Indians, who themselves had
frequent contacts with the Little People, the Little Grays, in
fact, the Lunar Ancestors.
One evening around twilight, one of
the Bennett Institute authorities came excitedly rushing into
the house yelling that UFO’s had circled around Buffalo Heart
Mountain. Everybody, myself included, rushed outside
where we watched six glowing red UFO’s soar westward and
disappear over the Beartooth Mountains after passing high
above our house. Everybody was just standing there
stunned just behind my house. After about ten minutes
the six ruddy glowing UFO’s swept into view over the Beartooth
Mountains in a line, heading toward Heart Mountain
again. They circled around behind Heart Mountain, then
turned Northward and flew over my house again and disappeared
Westward over the Beartooth Mountains. It is possible
that visitors in Yellowstone Park may have been witnesses to
those UFO’s, but we never heard any reports of
We then waited if they would come
back for what would be a third round of Heart Mountain.
Sure enough, they again were flying one behind the other in a
line from behind the Beartooth Mountains heading East toward
Heart Mountain. But this time, they were flying slower
and lower, being much bigger and brighter. The one at
the back of their alignment kept bobbing down and up again
over and over again as if to say it was looking for a landing
place. At the time this felt both wondrous but also
rather scary and ominous to everybody there. The six
obviously piloted vehicles again circled Heart Mountain, flew
slowly over my house and disappeared behind the mountains to
the West. So, again we all waited to see if they would
come a fourth time.
They did indeed come to circle Heart
Mountain. This time they were extremely large and even
slower. The one at the back was even more prominently
dipping down and up in its yoyo maneuver. As they came
extremely slow and low over the house, there were a lot of
frightened people there as it appeared the “Aliens” were about
to land. Each Alien Vessel had an oblong squarish shape,
flat at the front and the rear. They were so low, that
we could hear their engines humming and see metal plating on
their undersides with scorch marks on them. They gave
the impression of being very old models, virtual antiques,
utilized for the purpose at hand.
Strangely, they did not
land there at the house. A day or two later
however, a neighbor told us that a UFO had landed behind her
house and she had watched it anxiously for a long time, but
eventually it just took off. During the landing period,
I had a vivid astral contact and telepathic exchange with the
Little Gray occupants. It seems that in very primordial
times I was myself a Little Gray, so they had
brought out the old model UFO I myself used to ride around in
as a deep reminder! Things were also said,
but I will not talk about that.
The Bennett authorities were heavily
impressed, of course, that “cosmic” things were connected with
my spiritual work, that their turf in the Gurdjieff Work was
in good new hands, which enabled me to carry out the needed
A few years later I read an Alien
Abduction book, The Andreasson Affair by Raymond
E. Fowler. In that book, Betty Andreasson describes the
event at Clark Wyoming:
Oh-tookûrah bohûtûtah mawhûlah dûh dûwa ma her dûh okaht
tûraht [sighs] nûwrlahahtûtrah aw-hoe-hoe marikoto
tûtrah etrah meekohtûtrah etro indra ûkreeahlah
YOUNGREN: Betty, what are you saying to us?
I’m just saying it. I don’t know what they’re saying to
YOUNGREN: Are you repeating things that they are saying to
I don’t know what it is. They’re just saying it to me. I don’t
know what they are saying.
again broke into a foreign language. Then:
32 — Base 32 — [sigh] Signal Base 32.
YOUNGREN: Betty, can you tell us any more about that? Does
that refer to a number or a place?
[Softly] I don’t know. [Softly, to herself] Is
it a place? Is it a place? Curvature, curvature. Sombleado.
Star Seeso. Sombleado. Star Seeso.
continued with more strange language.)
WEBB: Betty, is this a message we are supposed to
I don’t think it’s from the book. I think it is coming from
YOUNGREN: Is this a message that you got then? Or is this a
No, I didn’t get it then. It must be from
YOUNGREN: Do you feel you’re in contact with them
I don’t know, but my hands feel like it’s the same as it was
then. So do my feet and my legs.
WEBB: Betty, is there something that they want us to
understand right now?
[After a pause] Yes.
WEBB: Do you know what it is? Can you tell us what it
[Pause] Something about scientists must bury the
YOUNGREN: Say some more. Tell us some more!
There is an even flow. There are waves that are being sent
out. And there are old walls that need to be broken
WEBB: Can you tell us more?
YOUNGREN: Does this relate to the formulas that they gave you,
or is this different?
This is different, something about circling the plain. Circle
the plain, P, L, A, I, N. Uh — count three and four. Counting
three and four is very important.
YOUNGREN: Can you tell us what the three and four relate
It’s something about a door, and it’s going to be opened. Oh,
VAILLANCOURT: Betty, you mentioned Star Seeso. Is that a
VAILLANCOURT: Is it in our galaxy?
WEBB: Is that where they’re from?
WEBB: What does that mean to them?
It means something about a two and a four and zero, zero, line
under zero, zero, zero, line under zero, zero, line under — it
keeps going on!
WEBB: Betty, did they ever tell you, give you, the name of the
place where they are from?
I can’t pronounce it.
WEBB: Did they ever show you a map?
All I see is a line straight down and — one, two, three, four,
five lines. There’s something like [pause] circled. I
don’t know what it is.
VAILANCOURT: Can you draw us a sketch of it?
If I can remember it, I’ll try and draw it.
YOUNGREN: Try to fix it in your memory so you can draw it for
There’s an anchor there.
SANTANGELO: Are you still in the living room,
No, I’m right here.”
fascinating coincidence is that Buffalo Heart Mountain
is in the very Northwest corner of
Wyoming, whereas Devil’s Tower is in the very
Northeast corner of Wyoming. The
fanciful cosmic event depicted in the movie
Close Encounter of the Third Kind was placed at
Devil’s Tower, which parallels a genuine cosmic event at
Buffalo Heart Mountain.
sure I am coping with your story. It does make me ask
what are You? So what finally happened to
the Institute of John G. Bennett?
had served its purpose, I put it into mothballs, began
dismissing my cultish helpers and ended my career as a “Cult
Leader”. As the Sufis say, “When the work is over, the
workshop is closed.”
of those Cult Followers from those days have any spiritual
comprehension of what You were really doing?
all. That is why they had to be dismissed.
has happened to them since?
||Generally they have tried to justify
their pseudo-spiritual social egos by condemning Me as an
awful bastard to anyone who will listen to their story.
This is of course quite predictable.
is when you went into the consulting business for over twenty
years and no longer functioned as a Cult Leader?
right. Of course, I will always be “tainted” in modern
society for having that old personal history.
allows you to now have extraordinary spiritual music and films
to release over the Web which could not be made under present
conditions in India and the Middle East?
you now create some new project for some virtual cult you will
am retired from both cult-leading and management
consulting, I have no desire to suffer further torture from
either! So, I think I will do something more sublime and
give me a hint about it?
||Think of the New Shambhala as a
future fleet of Earth-built gigantic space-migration spiritual
communities traveling to the Stars to become guest colonies on
Extraterrestrial planets in our Galaxy and beyond.
Picture the crew as Supramental Kriya Yogis liberated from
mechanical morality and social conditioning. Picture
them as having solved the three main personal human
What work to do.
Who to have sex with.
What mantra to use in Kriyayoga.
about the question of Ultimate Truth?
is no Ultimate Truth! Truth is ever-new discovering and
learning forever. Truth is a boundless cosmic
journey. It is a pilgrimage to the Center of the
Universe and beyond.
tell me what those future spiritual colony New Shambhala
spaceships look like?
interesting that you ask. You must be having an
intuition that they are very inspiring. So I will tell
you. They look like the “Babe in the Egg” at the end of
the movie, 2001 — A Space Odyssey.
there anything else you are going to release on the Web in
addition to what you have mentioned?
happens that during my Cult period I created a lot of
cosmic music to see if I could induce Cosmic
Consciousness into seekers with it. I tested it on my
cult-members, but they couldn’t develop the signal in their
inner consciousness due to their dullness and
immaturity. However, there are people out
there who will be able to work with the cosmic
signal, the vibrations. Once they download my music and
listen to it, it will blow the tops of their heads off, as it
see it as working for me?
leave that an open issue, but it will not hurt you to try
listening to it.
rather fetching to think of a contemporary “Avatar” as a
Cosmic Musician giving Mahakundalini Shaktipat with a
are getting on my beat!
mean I don’t have to go to Fiji and watch Da Free John exhibit
have a sharp sense of humor. I think we will finish on
it you don’t think of Da as a fellow Avatar.
simply a vainglorious reincarnation of Friedrich
Nietzsche. Now, it is time for you to leave. You
are obviously full.