Q: Have you any objection to telling us about the problems of navigation in
A: None at all. It is obvious that interplanetary voyages will not be
possible for people of Earth for some time to come, but we will give them a
helping hand by showing you what takes place.
The atmospheric pressure on Earth is 1.033 kg. per sq. cm. If a sheet of
paper is placed over the mouth of a glass full of water and turned upside
down, the atmospheric pressure on the paper will prevent the water from being
subject to the force of gravity and spilling out of the glass.
We use this natural atmospheric pressure in the flying saucer when flying
through your atmosphere. It is this which gives us the necessary propulsive
If we maintain this pressure underneath the saucer and bring about a
decompression on top, the craft will be given a terrific upward thrust which
no known force can match.
Q: Please be more explicit, I do not quite understand the system you
A: It is quite simple, my friend. We create a vacuum in the direction of
travel. If we have low pressure on one side, the other side is subject to the
full atmospheric pressure. Any object, whatever its nature, can only be moved
if some difference of energy potential is created. For example, with a saucer
of 20 m. diameter, we get 3,141,600 sq. cm. as the surface of the saucer.
With an atmospheric pressure of 1.033 kg. per sq. cm. we can calculate that
the force operating on a saucer of 20 m. diameter is equal to 3,278,272.8 kg.
This gives you some idea of what is involved, even, the smallest type of
saucer develops a thrust of approximately 3 million kg., whereas even your
most powerful aeroplanes cannot develop more than a few thousand kilogrammes
[By maintaining the vacuum in the direction of its flight, the saucer
can move at any speed and without creating any friction with the atmosphere.
It is also very easy to manoeuvre, since this vacuum can be moved in any
direction. The atmospheric pressure developed on a saucer of 65 ft. diameter
is over 3,000 tons; in the case of a saucer 'with a diameter of 200 ft. the
pressure developed would be some 30,000 tons. This, therefore, is a tremendous
source of power, unequalled by any other natural phenomenon.
Otto de Guericke was the first to notice the tremendous pressure of the
atmosphere. It was in 1654 that he tried to pull two hemispheres apart in
which he had created a vacuum. Not even the strength of sixteen horses could
achieve this. Before this he had seen atmospheric pressure crush a copper
boiler in which the pressure was low like a piece of paper. The movement of
the air in the upper layers of the atmosphere supports this incredible
pressure; if it were not for these we would be crushed by the volume of gas
It should be perfectly feasible to construct a saucer on Earth. Its
covering could be made of any material, as there would be no friction with the
atmosphere. They could be any shape although the saucer shape is the ideal
one, since one half can take the full force of the atmospheric pressure, while
the other is immersed in a vacuum. The speed and manoeuvrability of a cube
shaped craft would be impaired owing to air resistance on its sides, which
would consequently be subject to friction.
Unfortunately a craft of this type could be used in war, but it would also
revolutionise our transport systems if it could be constructed on Earth.
Distance would not be a factor, ships and trucks could be dispensed with, as
loading and unloading could take place anywhere without having to build
special landing fields - Dino Kraspedon]
In a standard transport saucer, this pressure would be much greater. With a
craft of 100 m. diameter, we would get a thrust of 78,540,000 kg. and with one
of 200 m. diameter the thrust would be 314,160,000 kg.
There is no limit to the size or capacity of these craft. We construct big
cargo carriers up to 600 m. diameter with a payload of almost 300 million kg.
This is more or less "theoretical because we never use the whole cargo
carrying capacity of these giant freighters. If we did so, we would not have
sufficient force available to develop high speeds.
When we undertake any interplanetary journey we use a low capacity craft.
The size depends on the object of the visit. Generally saucers with a diameter
of 20 metres are the handiest. These craft, fully equipped, weigh 250,000 kg.
The total capacity of this craft would be 3 million kilos, but we use this
margin of power to enable us to operate at high speeds.
A ship could never develop energy on this scale, not even atomic energy can
compare with the forces of Nature. And Nature does it without poisoning the
atmosphere! Is it clear to you now?
Q: I understand. What an extraordinarily simple process!
A: Yes, it is simplicity itself. It is just a question of knowing how. But
it would not be complete unless I told you how we set about creating a vacuum
externally. First I will explain to you how the saucer is steered. We can move
this vacuum in. any direction. Course is set by operating an ordinary lever on
a hemispherical mounting which moves the vacuum in the required direction. If
we wish it to go in a particular direction, we produce a vacuum on that side
of the saucer, and immediately the atmosphere produces a pressure on the
opposite side pushing us in the direction of the vacuum. Let us imagine that
we are moving in level horizontal flight, if we wish to make a right-angled
turn, all we have to do is move the vacuum to the top, or to one of the other
sides, and we shall move at the same speed in the new direction. We can change
direction abruptly and do not need to describe curves. Do you understand now?
Q: Yes, I see the whole import of it. This can revolutionise all our
concepts of aerial navigation. It is a diabolical piece of machinery.
A:It depends on the use to which it is put. I still have faith in humanity
and promise that if one day you can agree to abolish war, I will personally
come and help you achieve these results, and other more important ones. I
shall teach you how to make life a paradise.
But as I was saying, we create a vacuum and, to use your words, a
"diabolical" thrust. Friction, however, does not arise as we are always moving
into a vacuum.
And without friction the craft does not heat up. We often need extra
heating to keep ourselves warm, because the vacuum causes a drop in
There are no technical difficulties involved in producing an external
vacuum. You know that cathode rays have the strange property of decomposing
the atmosphere through which they pass. Under the action of these rays, the
elements of the atmosphere revert to their etheric state. In addition to this
we make cathode rays intersect the anode rays at an angle of 45 degrees. This
we achieve by using high voltage and current.
Q: Where is the cathode ray apparatus situated?
A: All over the peripheral area. That is to say, the whole of the outer
edge of the craft acts as a cathode ray emitter. These rays are deadly and can
only be projected outwards. If a human being were to be exposed to rays as
powerful as the ones we use, his cells would be destroyed, and he would suffer
But inside the craft there is less radioactivity than in the air that is
breathed on Earth.
The coloration that saucers appear to give off in flight is caused by these
rays, the same thing happens in a Crookes or Geissler tube. They are a result
of the low pressure or vacuum that we create. If we wish to go very fast, we
use an absolute vacuum, and move through space in a flash. At other times, we
use a semi-vacuum, and we move more slowly. The intensity of the vacuum is
proportional to the current used and is controlled by a rheostat. If we want
to follow an undulating course we use a pulsing current.
When we are using a semi-vacuum, you observe a luminosity around us at
night; but if we are using an absolute vacuum we become invisible because
light does not exist in a vacuum. This is the reason why people always say
that we appear to be stationary and suddenly vanish and appear in another
spot. [A diminution of the pressure in cathode ray tubes causes the light
in them to disappear. Light therefore is an atmospheric effect, and if it were
possible for us to live in a vacuum we would be in darkness - Dino
I must admit that other methods are also used, such as the bismuth system,
which is still used on some craft to set up a difference of energy potential,
in fact this was the system we used to use at first.
described this other process to us, but as it was a complex one we would
rather not repeat it here.]
After having travelled around for some time in these bismuth crates, a
Being from another planet explained to us how to use a simpler method. Now
they are only used for space travel by enthusiasts as a kind of sport, just as
you still use sailing boats.
That, my friend, is how you can make a craft as fast as, or even faster
than, a flash of lightning.
Q:I filly accept the explanation you have given. Of course, a craft which
could create an external vacuum should have great manoeuvrability; motive
power and payload. It appears to me, however, that this system would not be
very good for getting away from the Earth. It is easy to manoeuvre as long as
there is atmospheric pressure. But at a certain height, unless our
calculations are basically wrong, this pressure goes down to nothing. I would
like you to talk frankly about the method you use to escape from the Earth,
because what you have told us so far is only part of the answer.
A: You are forcing me to elucidate a vital point, which I would have
preferred not to tell you. Once you know this, we shall no longer have any
security and would run serious risks due to man's innate love of conquest. But
no one can refuse to tell the truth when he is asked. I will tell you
everything, but you must promise to keep secret the means by which we produce
Q: Does this mean that I am not to tell it to other people?
A: Of course. If there were nothing in what I have to tell you I would not
be imposing conditions. But you must use your own judgment. I cannot forbid
you passing on to others information which could contribute to the well-being
of the community. But I insist that the information that I give you concerning
means of destruction must be kept for yourself only. What I want to tell you
could bring destruction even to us as it would make it possible for you to
reach our homeland. The menace that hangs over the world as a result of human
technological development would be upon us, and it might turn men into devils.
If you approve of the other things I tell you, you may talk about them and
carry them out. And if at any time any technical difficulties should arise, I
shall be ready to help you solve them. It is sufficient for you to call upon
me in thought, and I shall know, even at a distance.
Friendship does not impose conditions, and generosity ought to be our
I also ask you that if one day you should want to make use of this
information for the good of the world, you should first tell your own people,
as the Brazilians are not aggressive and abhor war. Do not try to explain the
problem to anyone who could make one of these craft into a weapon of mass
However, if your people do not attach any importance to the information,
you should publish it as you see fit. You should do this without any
restrictions, so that all men know it and no one nation can gain an advantage
Now I will satisfy your curiosity, but first please pay special attention
to certain details which I have told you. Around every inhabited globe in
space there is an etheric fluid which envelops it and creates suitable
conditions for life.
It is a temporary habitat, not only for men but also for spirits. No one
can escape from it unless he knows how to produce another for his use.
Q: Are spirits also caught within this etheric envelope?
A: Yes. A spirit inhabiting a planet has a fluid body surrounding it. A
spirit who is still bound by matter to any extent, cannot live without it. If
it attempts to escape from its particular world, its spirit body leaves it and
is re-assimilated into the etheric envelope of the planet. Thus, even spirits
are prisoners for as long as they are unable to reject evil, and remain
Many people call this fluid "ether," but the label is of little
importance. It is a question of words, which does not affect the problem. What
is important is to know what it is made of.
We could well call it "electric fluid," which would be nearer the
truth. In electricity there is a negative charge, and a positive charge. In
physics we have protons and anti-protons, mesons and anti-mesons, electrons
and anti-electrons, matter and anti-matter. On Earth we only find matter, yet
it is possible to create anti-matter.
A body made of anti-matter would be expelled from matter. The force of
repulsion would be unbelievable. There are interplanetary vessels which are
composed entirely of anti-matter, but the force-field created by this means
has a terrifying effect on the physical properties of the people travelling in
them. For this reason our space ships are made of matter.
Further, we make our own etheric fluid inside the saucer, and by changing
its polarity so as to oppose that of the Earth we are repelled from the planet
at a speed corresponding to the difference in polarity between the saucer and
A knowledge of magnetic fields is required. You on Earth do not yet define
them correctly, but we know that the magnetic field is made up of the
"electric fluids' of the planet. If we "manufacture" an electric fluid which
differs from the terrestrial etheric envelope, the magnetic field of the Earth
no longer affects us, and we enjoy complete freedom of movement. We can change
direction in a way that amazes you, we can move at the speed of light and
suffer no ill effects. It is a complete breaking of the shackles which bind
Within the Earth's atmosphere we always use a vacuum system, but when we
leave this atmosphere we put the anti-electron producing machinery into
action, and our escape velocity is then phenomenal. Without wishing to terrify
you, I can tell you that normally we can reach Mars in a matter of minutes,
unless there is a breakdown, and then the trip becomes tedious.
When you entered our craft I called your attention to the different kind of
light inside which did not emanate from any particular piece of machinery, but
was caused by the air itself being luminous. You also noticed an agreeable,
almost spiritual feeling of lightness, a state of near levitation, as well as
a feeling of great well-being.
At that time you were in an artificial etheric atmosphere and not
the ordinary Earth atmosphere. When one's eyes are accustomed to seeing the
terrestrial ether, the artificial ether appears luminous.
Without this artificial ether no interplanetary voyage is possible. If you
tried to make a journey without this precaution, you would face certain death.
The fluid which binds you to your bodies would leave you, and your bodies
would instantly be crystallised. This is the mystery of the crystallised
bodies which reach the Earth in the form of meteorites, any body in space
without ether undergoes this process, whether it be made of carbon, calcium,
iron, nickel, or any other element.
After passing out of the magnetic field of the Earth, all we need to do is
to create an ether similar to that of the planet to which we are travelling,
and we will then be attracted by it. We can create this ether of another
planet even on Earth, so that we will be repelled from Earth and attracted to
the other planet whose ether is contained within the saucer.
On reaching that planet, we need only to change the ether again to propel
ourselves once more into space.
By this means life can be maintained inside the craft whatever its
construction, and at the same time it provides us with a means of locomotion.
Q:I think I understand the system, it is rational enough, but the
difficulty would appear to lie in making and changing this "electric fluid" as
A: You are wrong there. In Nature nothing is difficult. Things are only
difficult for those who make them so. Let us go back to what I told you about
an electron being a wave and not a particle. One of your physicists said,
correctly, that an electron is an integration of electro-magnetic waves. But
an electro-magnetic wave can be of positive or negative polarity. If we were
to send electro-magnetic pulses between magnets, the waves thus produced would
create an ether different from that on Earth. A variation in the distance
between the plates would bring about a modification in the ether produced.
That is what you wanted to know in clear and simple terms. I cannot tell you
more clearly than that.
Q: Is very much electrical energy required to bring about this effect?
A: Everything is relative. On our saucer, the voltage and current are very
high indeed. On a small craft used for research, very little current would be
Q: Where do you get this energy from to achieve these results?
A: There are various means of making it. It can be obtained by turning
hydrogen into helium at low temperature and bombarding deuterium with heavier
mesons, releasing a fabulous amount of energy; or by using ultra rays in an
acid solution saturated with helium nuclei. The latter process is the most
Q: How does the transformation of ultra rays into useable energy take
A: If you allow radioactivity to pass through a magnetic field you will get
alpha, beta and gamma rays. The first are helium nuclei, the second are
electrons and the third are gamma rays which are similar to ultra rays in
their electro-magnetic content. These three components of radioactivity are
The ultra rays, or gamma rays, on passing close to helium nuclei, bring
about a deformation of space and give birth to electrons until their wave
energy is expended. Thus when gamma rays pass through an acid solution
saturated with helium nuclei, the newly created electrons gyrate around the
nuclei, but the acid prevents them from joining up with the nuclei, and they
are collected on plates at the bottom of the apparatus. This provides an
inexhaustible supply of energy which requires nothing more than a little acid
solution and some helium nuclei.
There are, however, other means. On an interplanetary journey something
might go wrong with the apparatus we use for transforming hydrogen into helium
and the gamma ray collecting apparatus. If this should happen we would turn to
solar energy. We would pass it through a tube of coal gas. This gas, with a
suitable catalyst, unites with water, turning it into formaldehyde. This
product is then oxidised giving us coal-gas and water again. In this second
process solar energy is turned into useable electric current, which is quite
sufficient to meet our immediate requirements, as on interplanetary voyages
there is no lack of propulsive energy for the craft. The laws of inertia
provide us with the necessary acceleration to reach the planet that is our
Q: So that explains the whole operation of the saucer?
A: Yes, that is how it moves. We have, however, several navigational
instruments, as you were able to see. Supposing you had to explain to somebody
how a jet plane moves, you would naturally say that a backward thrust is
exerted which impels the craft in a forward direction. That would be true, but
inside the plane there are many navigational instruments.
If I were to begin to talk to you about the equipment we use for detecting
the etheric covering of planets, that alone would take us some three hours.
The instrument we use for interplanetary communication is also complex; it is
based on principles that you already know of, but have not put into practice.
The most important scientific discoveries are still to be made in the
simplest things. The secret lies in concentrating on the main issue without
going into abstract formulae.
With a formula you can explain a phenomenon but you cannot discover it. In
science we have to try to discover things, even though everything may already
appear to have been discovered. To bring formulae into the calculation merely
complicates something that was previously simple.
How would your formulae help to show that a difference of energy potential
could be produced between the atmospheric pressure and a vacuum, thus
producing a thrust. If you had discovered this, it would not have to be
proved. The craft itself would have been sufficient demonstration. Anything
else is academic pedantry.
Terrestrial science does not accept anything which cannot be proved
mathematically, and is then only accessible to the few. I can assure you that
many brilliant ideas have been shelved for the sole reason that their
originators were not sufficiently versed in mathematics to supply the
necessary proofs. This kills the spirit of research in a world where so much
is yet to be discovered.
Q: We supposed, hitherto, that the saucer simply cancelled out the effect
A: You supposed something that doesn't exist. Gravity is no more than a
wrong interpretation of a combination of phenomena.
Q: What? Doesn't gravity exist?
A: It does not exist. What science calls gravity is a question of a
difference in the density of bodies. To explain; the smoke of your cigar is
heavier than the surrounding air. Yet, it rises as the result of warmth. That
is to say the difference in density is compensated for by the temperature of
the smoke. Therefore, two factors are at work which can influence this
phenomenon; density and temperature.
We can see that a balloon full of hydrogen gas rises, according to the
volume of the gas. The same thing happens with helium. That is to say, bodies
of lesser density always tend to rise, in the same way that water and oil
separate, due to density: Gravity does not prevent bodies of lesser density
from rising. Whereas in air, which is of low density, heavy objects fall
rapidly, in water-more dense than air-they fall more slowly. The third factor
influencing gravity is the mass of atmosphere and ether surrounding a planet;
this can, however, be included in the factor of density. It is wrong to
attribute greater or lesser gravity to a planet without knowing the extent of
its gaseous mass and the density of its atmosphere. On Saturn, for example,
owing to the absence of atmosphere, gravity is considered zero. On Jupiter,
which has a very rarefied atmosphere, it is quite different. A falling body
has a high initial acceleration and then it collides with the low density of
the planet. On Mercury, however, where the etheric covering extends more than
6oo,ooo km., atmospheric pressure is high and gravity is tremendous.
The fourth factor influencing gravity is the vertical component of
magnetism. However, the attraction it exerts on a body is, with small
variations, the same as that on any other body. Thus it is that the speed of
fall in a vacuum is constant. However, this attraction is not due to mass, it
is caused by the magnetism with which the whole body is endowed.
Lastly, we have the energy that exerts pressure upon the Universe and
penetrates our systems of galaxies, of which I spoke to you earlier. As a body
cannot be subject to pressure in all directions, the Earth always shielding it
from this pressure on one side, the body feels a difference in the forces
acting upon it and falls to the surface of the Earth.
This tremendous universal pressure, which is the result of the vibration of
God on the infinite point of the Universe, is what maintains the atmosphere of
As the atmospheric pressure has the fabulous power we use to propel our
saucers, and as the tendency of gases is towards continual expansion, the
whole of the gaseous envelope surrounding a planet would expand into the
vacuum were it not maintained by constant pressure.
When Newton saw the apple fall, he could not guess that in that moment he
witnessed the effect of the divine presence in the Universe. Thus it is that
we move and have our being in God.
Gravity is, then, a combination of phenomena and never an individualised
Q: Why does heat affect gravity?
A: Because it reduces the magnetic force of bodies. You can prove that a
magnet loses its properties on being heated. As matter is made up of
stationary waves, heat has a powerful influence on them. By increasing the
frequency of these waves they begin to give off light. Moreover, it is well
known that heat reduces the density of a body. Accordingly, it tends to rise.
This can best be seen in the case of boiling water. The warmer water tries to
place itself above the cooler, producing currents. We note that heat is a
factor which affects gravity, not because it is itself an agent causing the
phenomena of gravity, but because it influences magnetism and density.
Q: Does this mean that our science is wrong?
A: Very wrong.
Q: Then all our physics, including relativity, fall to the ground?
A: Only the fallacious principles fall to the ground. Others will certainly
remain valid. Does it seem strange to you that this should happen? Ptolemy was
a genius, but his entire system collapsed like a pack of cards. The same thing
happened with Aristotle. In turn, Isaac Newton came up with the physics of
relativity, and its days are numbered…..
Q: ….Well, what about the curvature of light, obseryed by Eddington,
Crommelin and Davidson during the eclipse of the Sun on May 29th, 1919, which
formed part of Einstein's theory?
A: The curvature of light is not due to the action of the mass of the Sun,
but is caused by the magnetic centre of the system situated near the Sun. Even
within a solenoid you can see that a stream of electrons is deflected by a
magnetic field. There is nothing new in this. If light were to be deflected
when passing close to a mass, this phenomenon could be clearly observed in the
vicinity of planets, let us say Mars, when it is close to Earth. Eclipses of
the Moon, for example, would provide the best opportunity for such
observation. Nevertheless, this curvature was only seen precisely where the
magnetic centre of our system is to be found. If there were no repulsion
between energy and magnetism, your motors would not turn. Therefore, light is
deflected by the magnetic centre and curves round the Sun. If you had proper
apparatus, you would see that light also curves on the side opposite the
centre, as though it were trying to get away from the Sun.
I wish to imply that the curvature of space is anti-scientific. Primordial
space is not relative to any thing and has no form at all. It is neither a
curve nor a straight line, and it has no dimensions, it is simply space,
infinite in all directions. Wheresoever an observer may place himself, he will
always have before him the infinite Universe.
Q: Then no limit can be conceived to matter?
A: If in space there should be a point that could serve as a limit to
creation, there God would be contained. But God is infinite, and the Universe
is a point to Him. Only a materialistic science could limit creation. If you
conceive a limit, what would you then have beyond it?
Q: I should say, nothing.
A: Truly, you would have nothing. But space is nothing transformed by God.
Matter also is nothing. If it comprises anything, it is the divine energy that
brought life to space. To you matter is something; but make a stream of
cathode rays pass through it and it will disappear from your view. You will
only see space.
All that appears is an illusion of our senses. Only one thing is real; that
is Spirit, and that is exactly what earthly science does not admit.
Q: It is hard for us to learn that our most cherished concepts are
completely at variance with reality.
A: Indeed, one of the bad aspects of man is his obstinacy. If I had erred
for an eternity, I would welcome the day when someone would enlighten me.
Believe me, I am telling you the truth. What pain can anyone feel by putting
error aside and seeing the truth
Q: But it is difficult for us to abandon the science of relativity.
A: It will be difficult for science, also, to abandon the experiments of
Hertz and Fresnel, who settled upon the wave theory of light. However, when
science has to explain electronic theory, the wave theory is put aside; when
atomic theory is in question, it turns things upside down and says that the
electron is a particle, and has recourse to Planck's theory.
Before abandoning relativity, first decide whether the wave theory or the
emission theory is true. Verify the true speed of light. Determine the action
and reaction of the planetary system. Never use two interpretations in one
science, in order to explain the same thing.
Q: I have noted the factors which you say affect gravity, but there is a
case which should be considered. If it is true that the density of bodies
affects gravity, on the top of a mountain the air is more rarefied so that
iron, for example, being in a more attenuated medium, should weigh more.
However, the contrary is the case, the higher one goes, the less it weighs.
A: But I told you also that gravity is affected by the mass of ether
surrounding the planet. If the weight of the atmosphere, at sea level, is
equivalent to a column of mercury of 76 cm. for each 10 m. of altitude the
column falls about 1 mm. Thus, we must consider the pressure which bodies
undergo as a function of their density. The lower the atmospheric pressure,
the less is the weight. If gravity were a force with its own attributes and it
was that which supported bodies in space, it would be rather difficult for
earthly science to explain why meteors are maintained in their orbits. Every
year Earth collides with millions of meteorites, always in the same month.
This means that they are located in one place. Now, if there were a law of
gravitation, they would either all come towards Earth, or already have been
attracted by the Sun. However, those which succeed in penetrating the mass of
ether fall to Earth and the others remain in the same place. They are, then,
in balance between the magnetic attraction of the centre of the system and the
repulsive force of the Sun. For terrestrial gravity to exist, there would have
to be solar attraction, but neither of these exist.
If my reasoning were incorrect, bodies in a vacuum would never have the
same speed of fall.
For the sake of argument, let us suppose that gravity exists. But if all
bodies in a vacuum fall with equal velocity, it ceases to be true that matter
attracts matter in direct proportion to their respective mass, at least not if
this matter is in a vacuum. If this premise is demolished, it is easy to see
that if a vacuum exists between the celestial bodies, solar gravitation-if it
exists-should attract all bodies equally, independently of their mass. But all
terrestrial astronomy is based on the mass of bodies and their distance from
Therefore your conception of the cosmos is wrong. Besides, when Newton
supposed a gravitational force to exist, he had to imagine the existence of an
ether. He could not conceive of this force without there being a vehicle for
it. And it is strange that, later, relativity denies the ether and yet
approves of gravity. it admits what the discoverer of gravity himself could
This being the case, we do not cancel out gravity at all. All we do is to
utilise the forces of Nature. if our craft flew on the basis of cancelling out
gravity, as you suppose, we would only move in one direction. We would always
fly against the Earth's rotation, and it would be impossible to fly with it,
or anywhere near the poles. Besides, we would be limited to the insignificant
speed of 1,660 km. per hour.
Now, it is laughable to imagine a craft coming from another planet with
such low velocity and with only one directional movement. Such a saucer would
be much inferior to terrestrial aircraft and it would be a case of our coming
to learn from you something about manoeuvrability and how to fly faster…...
Q: Shall we one day be able to journey through space and visit other
A: Yes, it will be possible, as it is, in fact, at present. There is now
much talk on Earth of journeys through space and of conquering other worlds
and their inhabitants but before running the tremendous risks involved, one
needs to know all the laws which govern the planetary system and the
peculiarities of each one of the planets. If one were ignorant of these laws
one would be destroyed before leaving the rarefied matter that surrounds the
Earth; and if we are to have the pleasure of being conquered we should hate to
see you come to grief without having got beyond the gaseous envelope of your
own planet! There is no visible doorway into space, but it is shut to those
who are ignorant of the fundamental laws that govern it.
Knowledge is the key that opens it.
But in view of the state of Earthly knowledge, this is as yet an impossible
dream. Science will not be able, in one fell swoop, to achieve the conquest of
space when it knows nothing about what happens more than 300 miles up.
How do you think that man, who knows nothing of the forces which move and
maintain the planets in space, can leave the Earth? This would be tantamount
to a primitive savage building an aeroplane and flying.
To achieve this using fuel propellants is impractical for various reasons,
if only because fuel is unnecessary. If the forces which operate in the
planetary system were indeed those which terrestrial science claims them to
be, the saucer would be attracted by the Sun or by the planets and in this
case the law of inertia that maintains acceleration imparted to a body would
not be valid. Even at this point science has gone wrong.
If one were to use fuel, a tremendous amount of it would be required in
view of the time it would take for a craft of this type to reach another
planet. Then there is the question of the return journey. This method is
The difficulty facing the people of Earth is an illusory one. They need
only to understand cosmic laws and everything will be made easy. If we have
been able to understand them, you also will be able to.
Earth's scientists have got their terminology mixed. It appeared to them
that the only thing that could conceivably maintain the Earth in orbit and
account for its revolution was solar attraction, so they based all their
calculations on this. In reality the opposite is the case; the Sun exerts a
repulsive force on the Earth. Further, as it was obvious to them that a body
could not maintain itself in an orbit when acted upon by a single force, they
impute miraculous qualities to centrifugal force, believing that it was the
second force that held the planets in their orbits. Nothing could be farther
from the truth.
Even if centrifugal force did give the necessary balance to a planet, which
it does not, there is one glaring omission in this theory, namely the force
that impels a planet in a certain direction. They see that a planet is
attracted, they also see that centrifugal force counterbalances this
attraction, but they do not see that they have overlooked a third force which
gives a planet movement. When one whirls a stone on the end of a string, the
string represents the force of attraction and centrifugal force plays the part
of repulsion, but the individual represents the third force which gives
direction to the stone.
Your term is "centrifugal force," which means to say that all the points in
a body tend to fly away from the centre. We put it diffently. In our view all
the points M' tend to follow a straight line in space in the direction of the
impelling force and at a tangent to the equatorial plane of the body.
It is this interpretation of centrifugal force which gives direction to the
saucer when we leave the Earth or any other planet. Without it there would be
no interplanetary travel.
Now let us analyse the consequences of the terrestrial system based on
solar attraction and repulsion through centrifugal force: if all the points of
a body tried to fly away from the centre, the force of solar attraction
resisted by the centrifugal force would give rise to a loss of energy and the
planet would become stationary.
We should also bear in mind that this loss of energy would be a double one
as the Earth develops two kinds of centrifugal force, the first due to its
orbital velocity, and the second due to its axial rotation. Work cannot be
performed by a body without a source of power. If Earth itself were the source
of the power, then the whole of physics, thermodynamics included, would be
This alone is sufficient to show the incorrectness of terrestrial
astronomy, as a theory is only valid when it answers all the relevant problems
Jupiter, with a mass 317 times greater than that of the Earth, should be
subject to a far greater attraction than the Earth, yet the velocity in orbit
is not high enough to counterbalance this and maintain it in orbit. This
planet has a large mass and a low velocity. This being the case, either the
orbital velocity of the Earth is too great for its mass, and it should be
flung out of its orbit, or Jupiter's is too low, and it should be drawn into
Note that I give Jupiter's mass as 317 times that of the Earth, so as not
to differ from your estimate which is based on the force of attraction of the
Sun against centrifugal force. This figure, however, is incorrect.
You might raise the objection that Jupiter, with its large mass, revolves
in an outer orbit according to the theory that spheres of greater mass are
said to be more subject to the action of centrifugal force. Against this we
have the case of Mars which is smaller than the Earth, yet is farther from the
Sun; or again, the planets beyond Jupiter which are smaller than it, and yet
revolve at a tremendous distance from the Sun. Moreover their velocity in
orbit is very low. So that does not make sense either.
The phenomena of Nature are simple and can easily be explained. The
difficulties lie in the capacity of beings to analyse the facts, and they
often elaborate complicated systems which are often quite ridiculous. There
was one which lasted for some time which maintained that the Earth was held in
space by elephants. If anyone had had the sense to ask what the elephants were
standing on, this theory might have had a shorter life.
Nobody can equate problems without weighing all the factors which lead to
their solution. Scientists forgot, when dealing with the movement of planets,
that energy must have been used up as a result of solar attraction working
against the two centrifugal forces mentioned. If no explanation was given as
to the source of power necessary to sustain the movement- which in this case
is what the elephants' feet stand on-then it is because the problem was based
on false premises.
In the theory which I contend is the correct one, this force is derived
from difference of energy potential which sunlight sets up by illuminating one
face of the planet while leaving the other m darkness. A body which is
balanced between two opposing forces (attraction and repulsion) has no weight
and moves like a stone whirled round on the end of a string, the radius of its
orbit being represented by the string. All the mechanical phenomena of the
Universe are explainable.
Q: There is one great difficulty you appear to forget. If there is any
logic in your theory that planets can be maintained between the attraction of
the magnetic centre of our system and the repulsion by the light of the Sun,
how can your theory be applied to satellites? For example, how can you
reconcile these factors with the problem of the Moon's movements?
A: By the theory of centrifugal force which is what I have not yet
explained. Before showing you the solution I would like to point out the
difficulties in the theory that Earth's people have elaborated.
The Moon does not describe a truly circular orbit round the Earth.
Sometimes it moves closer and other times it moves away. The distance between
the planet and the satellite can vary by as much as 26,000 miles. If the Moon
were maintained by the action of gravity against centrifugal force, its orbit
should be perfectly circular and there being a balance of these two forces,
the Moon would be unable to alter its distance from the Earth, unless there
was some inconsistency in the laws of gravitation, which would be
inadmissible. This does not take into consideration the fact that when it
moves into close orbit, the balance is upset and the satellite should be drawn
towards the Earth. The first satellite of Mars represents a curious phenomenon
which completely negates your conception of the truth; while Mars completes
its axial rotation in 24 hours 37 minutes, its satellite completes three
revolutions round the planet, taking 7 hours 39 minutes per revolution.
We are thus back to where we started, wondering what supplies the force
which enables the satellite to disobey the gravitational force of the planet
and complete three revolutions instead of one.
Even more curious is the behaviour of the ninth, tenth and eleventh
satellites of Jupiter, which utterly defy the laws of gravitation as you
suppose them to be.
Jupiter and its satellites move anti-clockwise, whereas the above three
satellites move in the opposite direction.
I will now show you why the Moon is held in space without colliding with
the planet; it is because it lies within the periphery of the etheric envelope
which surrounds the Earth. There is a magnetic attraction between the two
bodies, the poles of the Earth acting on the poles of the Moon and vice versa.
While there is attraction between their magnetic fields, the two bodies
themselves are repelled by solar light.
A: Sunlight is reflected from the Moon to Earth and from the Earth to the
Moon. The combined reflective action of the two bodies supplies the necessary
repulsive force to overcome the magnetic attraction. The result is that the
satellite maintains itself in orbit. When the reflection of sunlight between
the two bodies is greatest, the pressure increases and the Moon moves away
from the Earth; when, however, the Moon is waning the reflection of light is
less, which proportionally decreases the force of repulsion and the magnetic
attraction increases so that the satellite moves closer to the Earth.
This variation causes the Moon to describe a perfect ellipse around the
It is wrong to suppose that tides are caused by the attraction of the Moon.
What happens is the exact opposite; this can be proved by observation.
Sunlight reflected from the Moon exerts a pressure on the liquid mass of the
ocean. Being compressed at one point, this liquid is raised up at another.
This is the explanation of the retardation of tides caused by the Moon…...
Q: …..Knowing all these things, how do you set about travelling though
space, or better still, how should we go about it if we were to attempt to do
A: I explained to you how the atmosphere can be ionised by cathode rays.
The ionised "bubble" is absorbed by the atmosphere creating a vacuum in its
rear into which the saucer is drawn, thus rising upwards. Now, the Earth
develops a surface speed of 1,040 m.p.h., but no one feels it move. This means
to say that if we continued to rise in relation to a point on the Earth's
surface we should be increasing our speed, but would have no sensation of
acceleration. On reaching a height of 250,000 miles from the Earth's surface
we should, without any other effort than that of going upwards, reach a speed
of 66,000 m.p.h., which is equal to the speed of revolution of the planet in
space. We neither see nor feel the speed we have reached as we have no point
of reference; but if there were a stationary observer outside the etheric
envelope, in which we have no sensation of speed, he would see us moving at a
terrific angular velocity.
Having reached this speed we would try to escape from the etheric coveting,
falling into the vacuum. Due to the tendency of moving bodies to move in a
straight line, we would leave the etheric envelope at a point at which the
saucer, by following a straight line, would reach the planet we wanted to get
to. The procedure would, of course, be different if we were using the
"electric fluid" of the planet as our means of propulsion.
In order to explain one principle to you, I have had to omit another. I
said "a straight line" in order to simplify the reasoning, but we have, in
fact, to take into consideration the deflective action the forces of
attraction and repulsion would have on us. We would, however, follow a
rectilinear course because we have means of offsetting these differences. If
we create a magnetic field with the powerful solenoids at our disposal, we
should be attracted, and if we switch off the field, we should be repelled.
That is why it is necessary to understand fully the laws of Nature, otherwise
we would not reach any planet at all.
Also for the sake of simplicity I said that we leave the Earth at a speed
of 66,ooo m.p.h. In practice the minimum escape velocity we use is 125,000
m.p.h., of which 66,000 are supplied by the Earth and the difference by the
speed developed by the saucer within the atmosphere. Sometimes we use even
higher speeds which to you would seem incredible. Nature has resources which
the people of Earth have not dreamed of.
Using a speed of 66,000 m.p.h. with which the Earth provides us gratis, it
would be possible for people to attempt a journey through space and reach
other planets, but there would be certain dangers due to loss of energy though
solar repulsion. It should be noted that we move at right angles to the
direction of solar repulsion. If we were to move in the same direction we
should be impelled by it, and if we were to move in an opposite direction we
should be repelled by it, in which case we would suffer a loss of kinetic
energy. Therefore a higher speed is required, as the laws of inertia are valid
to some extent.
A pilot who is used to making these flights could do so using this low
speed, but it would take him a long time.
With a high escape velocity we only require fuel or 'other sources of
energy in small quantities for use within the saucer.
We can completely disconnect the Crookes and Geissler tubes which bring
about the atmospheric disturbance because we have no need for them. Once in a
while they are used to deflect meteorites that we meet with en route. We
generally connect them up when wandering meteorites appear on the screens of
our detecting apparatus.
At a certain height above the Earth's atmosphere a body begins to rotate
violently. This fact has been observed by you countless times, and it is these
same factors which cause the Earth to rotate. Under low atmospheric pressure a
body illuminated on one face, with the other in darkness, tends to rotate on
itself on an imaginary axis. This is a grave danger for the inexperienced for
the same thing happens in space. In order to correct this we heat up that part
of the craft which is away from the Sun, and this maintains our balance.
The principal technique in astro-navigation lies in establishing contact
with the etheric covering of the planet we wish to reach. We must always
approach the planet in the direction of its rotation. If we were to approach
it counter to its rotation, our craft would be broken to pieces. For this
reason we approach the etheric mass at a tangent, following the direction of
its movement. Two bodies travelling in the same direction have no relative
velocity; it is as though they were both stationary. Then the contact between
them does not give rise to any friction.
I should also add that we have means of stopping and starting the saucer in
space and, naturally, of increasing or diminishing its speed. If we were
travelling at 175,000 m.p.h. it would be dangerous to make contact with the
etheric covering of a planet with a low speed of rotation, even if this took
place in the direction of its movement. In such cases we reduce speed until we
are moving at the same speed as the etheric covering.
This is a convenient place to explain to you the phenomenon of meteorites
which reach the planets. If they reach the etheric envelope against the
direction of the planet's rotation, they are broken to pieces, but if they
come into it following the direction of rotation they sometimes manage to
reach the surface of the planet. This, however, depends on the speed at which
they reach the planet.
If we go from Earth to Jupiter, we generally use Mars or Venus as staging
posts, depending on the positions of the planets at the time.
In your case, as you would not have any reliable means of correcting your
speed in space, you should, if you were to undertake a voyage to Jupiter,
proceed as follows:
Earth moves in orbit at 66,000 m.p.h., Mars at 54,O0O m.p.h. and Jupiter at
29,000 m.p.h. The solution would be to use Mars as a staging post, and attain
a speed identical to this planet's rotation, that is to say 54,000S m.p.h. A
difference of 25000 m.p.h. between your speed and that of the ether of the
planet will not produce too great a friction. In order to prevent accidents
the Geissler tubes should be switched on at the moment of contact in order to
avoid as much friction as possible. With the velocity supplied by Mars, the
journey could be continued to Jupiter, but the trip would take a long time.
No landing should be made on Jupiter itself, but on the satellites. The
small etheric envelope makes contact very dangerous, unless the craft has its
own means of deceleration in space. You should aim by preference for Ganymede,
which has a large etheric envelope and atmosphere moving at a high speed. Io
can also be recommended. It would be wrong for you to pass via Venus since
this planet has a velocity of 77,000 m.p.h. and the difference between this
speed and Jupiter's would be too great.
Q: What would happen if we were to stop the craft? For example, if we
approached a planet with only vertical acceleration and no horizontal
A: You would only do this once, there would be no second time. You would be
utterly destroyed. The shock would be of unparalleled intensity. It would be
as though you were standing on a railway line and a train ran into you at high
speed. We know because many of us made this mistake and died. It was also
difficult for us to learn the secrets of space. You will not have these
difficulties if you undertake a space journey one day, because we shall have
told you the dangers that can dog the steps of the most courageous traveller.
You have only to listen to us and tell the pundits of Earth that it is
wiser for an individual to profit by the experience of others than to reach
the same result at the price of his own life. We are aware that you threaten
to dominate and even to destroy us, but we do not wish to bring about your
ruin that way. On the contrary, we should sorry to see the people of Earth
fail, as we are sorry about many of the things they do.
We would prefer to see you as horsemen of space, holding the reins of a
fiery chariot, or as intrepid sailors braving the turbulent seas of the
Maybe men would then come to understand the grandeur of the works of God
who dispensed riches abundantly in every corner of the Universe, and see that
there is no need to fight for land and lebensraum. To fight for these things
shows an ignorance of the greatness of the Universe; man behaves like a turkey
held within an imaginary circle, lacking the intelligence to see that he needs
only to take a single step to freedom.
Maybe men would also cease destroying one another in warfare over some
wretched oil wells which are no more important than holes in the ground. If
they need energy, space sends it to them from all directions by means of
cosmic rays. It is as though they were dying of thirst while sailing down the
They have only to lower a bucket into the water and fill it as often as
If they would cease making war, and live like rational beings, we would
show them how to harness energy, be it atomic, solar, magnetic or cosmic
energy. If they learn to be peace-loving and merciful, the elder brothers in
the solar system will show them how to turn this Earth into a Garden of Eden.
Do not believe that God made the world evil, for it is His wish that all
should be happy. Nobody's suffering brings Him any satisfaction. Pain,
physical or mental suffering and difficulties in general are of no help to
anybody, but only show how debased his feelings have now become. If anything
produces suffering, it is resentment and blasphemy against Him who continually
showers blessings on us.
Everyone is responsible for the misery and oppression in which he finds
himself If man changes his heart and makes up his mind to be merciful and
good, he will at once have countless brothers at his side to help him, not to
mention the help and joy from on High. Rest assured that the Father is more
ready to give than the son is to ask.
If one day you should recount to others what I have told you, tell them
that I, personally, in the name of the inhabitants of my planet, assure them
if one day any country in the world decides to abandon destruction, I will
come, together with thousands of others, to give them material help and moral
Even if this should happen to a man instead of a country, we would still
come to this man, and not a hair on his head would perish. We do not rely on
our forces. alone, but on the paramount power of the Universe, which always
supports the efforts of beings who follow the right path.
At the moment the Great Powers of Earth are preparing to make war. In a few
years their swords will be drawn, making a holocaust in honour of their
Moloch, and a host of victims will fall to the self-interest of a few
potentates who stop at nothing to gain their objectives, even at the cost of
Human blindness is deplorable. Men preach peace but destroy the Earth; they
talk of love and perpetrate deeds of hatred; they believe in progress but
disregard finer feelings, becoming worse than beasts.
We have been watching the carnage on Earth for some time and we had hoped
that man might one day understand the work of God and repent. We waited for
this transformation to come about, but in vain. However fruitless our efforts
may be, we have come to present ourselves and to offer you help. In this we
are obeying an order, and our hearts are glad to be able to extend a helping
hand to others.
You must be wondering why I am revealing all our knowledge without
restriction. It is because we would like to share what we have with those who
have not. It is like giving medicine to a child, if the pill is bitter we coat
it with sugar. While explaining the scientific points we are at the same time
making a desperate appeal to you to unite in the great Christian doctrine of
brotherhood and to renounce wars for ever.
It is an indication that we are ready to help you with all our resources,
asking for nothing in return save the right to call each other friends. We are
not interested in your raw materials, because we can obtain them at will by
transmutation. We would like to see your Earth and land in your cities, to
live together with the people and enjoy their company. If we were in too much
of a hurry to come down, we would greet you with a friendly dip of the wing.
You would come to us and be able to live in our world, making use of all
that we have, because in our society, all goods are held in common. Among us
the only currency is brotherhood. We do not bargain with the gifts that God
gave us, but put ourselves in the position of being able to hand them out.
MAN'S WASTED EFFORTS
Q: Can you please tell us what you think of us, and give us some idea of
our weak points. In a game of cards it is easier for an onlooker to see what
should be played than it is for the players. Your views would obviously be
unbiased. In what direction should we progress to achieve happiness?
A: You want to be happy, and think that material progress is the magic word
which makes water spring from a rock. Neither worldly possessions nor
knowledge can ensure a man s happiness. Knowledge is not an attribute of
animals and yet they are happy as God made them. The savage in his habitat
lives peacefully in spite of his poverty and ignorance. He would probably not
exchange his discomforts and lack of knowledge for all the erudition of the
scientist taking part in scientific discussions.
True human happiness must rest on the understanding that it is God's will
that man's destiny should be a glorious one, in obedience with the laws of the
Creator and in love for his fellows. Of what avail are all his possessions and
all his knowledge, his dominion over the forces of Nature, if he has no
dominion over his own heart?
Many scientists placed themselves above the world, and in their arrogance
felt superior to other men. But they died, and their theories were
subsequently disproved. They are remembered as individuals who thought they
knew everything, but were deceived and did not even know themselves.
Others became famous though the possession of worldly goods, but death
destroyed their dominion and at the last moment they felt unhappier than
anyone when they saw that they had lived in illusion. Nobody dies happily with
science and money alone.
However, those who showed their wisdom through love still live in men's
They died happily having lived happily. Mary of Nazareth, Florence
Nightingale, John the Baptist, still live on as true individuals, the light of
their love illuminating the lives of many. Without doubt St. Francis of Assisi
lived at so high a level that the scientists who designed the atomic bomb
could not even hope to touch the soles of his feet. And yet he was not a
There are men of great riches on Earth, yet they could not prevent their
sons becoming thieves or murderers. Did riches bring happiness in such cases?
A rich man may send his son to university to return a few years later with his
diplomas, but can a diploma make a person good? Cannot lawyers also be
thieves, and doctors murderers, and priests immoral?
I maintain that a hungry father with a virtuous son would be happier than a
rich father with a thieving or murderous son.
Q: I realise that righteousness is superior to everything, but I would like
to know, from our material point of view, excluding any ethical
considerations, what the principal mistakes in our methods are, and how they
might adversely affect our future.
A: Nobody can divorce progress from its moral aspect. But since you wish to
know of the effects, and not the cause, I will outline them to you:
Humanity's great failing is never being able to walk without its eyes glued
to the road it has already covered; it has thus become a pillar of salt like
Lot's wife. Man is basically conservative and prefers to live in the memory of
times that can never return rather than in the hope of a radiant future. He
fears the day to come instead of helping the future and preparing its way. He
expends an enormous amount of energy on things that cannot help him, and
wastes precious time on futile things; for instance, he wastes money,
teachers' and pupils' time, maintains buildings, uses up brainpower, all to
teach dead languages which should have been buried long ago.
Paper, ink, books, chalk and a thousand other things that could be put to a
better use are used in teaching useless things. Instead of a dead language,
why not teach the functioning of photosynthesis. It would be more worth while
to know the meaning of potential gradient, or the functions of the body,
rather than the declension of an ancient language. Rather than look into a
most promising future, they prefer to live among the mummies of history, and
try to resuscitate the past.
There is a multitude of things which children never hear about, and which
they may never come to hear about. Rather than teaching recitation, it would
be better to show them how to grow onions and celery, or teach them that
wheat, besides providing good food, can also be used for making vegetable oil,
viscose, xylose, acetic acid, soap, alcohol, cellulose, syrup, textiles, fuel,
etc., and that the stalks and leaves from which all these things are made
should never be buried because they are unsuitable as fertiliser and are
carriers of crop diseases.
Teach them rather the meaning of the hydrogenous potential of the soil, how
to correct acidity, what soil requires in the way of nitrogen, caesium,
cobalt, sulphur, manganese and phosphorus. Show them that vegetable hormones
can produce cabbage leaves ten feet high, and apples weighing several pounds.
Children can forget the names of those who brought devastation to humanity,
but they should never forget that it is possible to transform the light of the
Sun, virtually without loss, into usable energy by passing it though a coal
gas which unites with water to form formaldehyde; and that the oxidised
aldehyde can turn sunlight into electric current.
There is far greater beauty to be found in the saturation point of a
solution than there is in the story of the destruction of Carthage.
Millions of individuals die of cancer, whereas schools teach children the
colours of national flags, offending the innate gregarious instinct of man
which intuitively abhors the artificial barriers which economic power has
erected in the world.
Rather than dwell upon the word "China," they should learn more about
caesium; instead of France, Brazil, U.S.A., U.S.S.R. they should learn more
about the functions of nitrogen, phosphorus, sulphur and iron, teaching them
that these elements, among others, produce proteins, and that they, in turn,
linked to caesium molecules, make up the anti-cancerous elements normally
contained in the liver. Tell them that these same proteins, when linked to
cobalt molecules, combat anaemia and are known as vitamin B.12.
Instead of sounding praises to the destructive power of an invader show
them that heavy hydrogen is one of the main causes of cancer when it gets into
a cell, and that caesium has the ability to strip it of an electron making it
into ordinary innocuous hydrogen. Show them, statistically, that cancer
generally affects children who have not yet reached fertility, or old people
who have passed it, that sex is thus a defence mechanism of the body, and that
these hormones should not be wasted for the mere satisfaction of instincts.
Teach them that instead of drinks it would be preferable to take an extract
of liver with enzymes, since these elements cause cancer to recede.
It surprises me that humanity, not having discovered a cure for
tuberculosis, should learn rhetoric and dissertation at school. These things
should be pastimes for people who do not have diseases to worry about that
bring misery to millions of people. It is as though 'someone in mortal agony
should begin to study the metre of Alexandrine verses..
But all the above put together are not as serious as humanity's main fault:
the dispersal of his forces to an alarming degree. I cannot quote the exact
statistics for the world, or even for your country, but we can make an
There are about 50 million people in Brazil. About 30 million of these are
children too young to take part in the productive life of the country, another
10 million are women, which leaves 10 million men.
In the latter figure one must include the retired and the unproductive,
beggars, lepers, consumptives, lunatics, invalids, the blind, thieves,
prisoners and the unemployed.
A large proportion of work is in unproductive, speculative undertakings,
such as wholesalers, retailers, advertising men, estate agents, stockbrokers,
lawyers, bankers. Others are employed in the police, army, navy, air force,
magistrature, diplomatic and civil service, etc.
This leaves barely a million productive men employed in agriculture and
industry. We would also have to be sure that this agriculture is productive in
the true sense of the word, and that the industries are the ones that the
country really needs.
In any case, even supposing that all the men were productive, we would
still only have 2 million out of a total of 50 million, that is to say, one
man working for every twenty-five people, which is absurd when we consider
that this individual who does the work for the other twenty-five generally
does so without mechanical aids, by the sweat of his brow, so that the others
can maintain their standard of living.
Of the million or so who take part in agriculture, many work against the
better interests of society, growing tobacco and stimulants, or are engaged in
the fattening up of animals which impoverish the land and subsequently poison
man with their meat.
We could say almost the same for those employed in industry. There is
nothing wrong with factories, their chimneys are, in a sense, lungs getting
rid of carbon dioxide from the central organism.
But man does little to put them to proper use. Factories are by no means
always built to solve fundamental problems. The great majority are engaged in
making cosmetics, jewels, useless trinkets for women, endless handbags,
ridiculous hats, novelties, nail varnish, shoes which hurt the feet and ruin
the carriage, stockings which offer no protection, cigars to poison the body,
chewing gum, footballs, pistols and sporting guns, munitions, alcoholic drinks
and other stimulants; yet there are countless useful and necessary things
which could be mass produced, such as building material, medicaments,
synthetic vegetable hormones, machines for producing energy, electronic
stoves, concentrated foodstuffs for distressed populations, philosophical and
scientific books, plastic shoes, surgical and orthopaedic instruments,
fertilisers, mechanical harvesters and sowers, insecticides, prefabricated
houses, indestructible furniture, prospecting instruments, nitrogen plant,
But let us leave aside all this wasted effort and see how you make use of
the work of these 2 million men who are at least doing something. The annual
budget estimates for your country must be somewhere about 6.5 billion
cruzeiros . Of this sum, about 4.5 billion are spent on the armed
forces, and about 1.5 billion on civil service, the judiciary, state loans,
government expenditure, foreign ministry, electoral machinery, official
journeys, banquets, etc.
The small remainder is used for beneficial purposes, such as education,
public health and agriculture.
Imagine if all this money were ploughed into the construction of roads,
schools, hospitals, churches, research institutes, sanitation, new industries,
housing schemes, shelter, medicaments, transportation, etc. Imagine if this
vast number of non-productive people were to be diverted into new productive
Even then everything is not covered by the federal budget. What about State
expenditure? Have you checked the amount of money spent on local governments,
public service, police, etc? How many police are there in your State alone?
The expenditure on horses alone which are kept for parades would go a long
way to feeding and sheltering the hungry who walk the streets in the heat and
in the rain. It is ironical that in a society in which its people can suffer
from hunger and cold, horses should be given balanced rations and covered with
good woollen blankets.
Is a police force necessary? Yes, it is necessary. It is the necessity of
having a policed state that Rousseau spoke of. But if it is necessary, it is
only because men have made it indispensable. If a people waste their
productivity on bad things, misery results from their irresponsibility. If
there were an abundance, no one would think of killing or robbing. Human
passions are stirred up by money because money gives rise to arguments, to
profit, the voracity of financiers, and to ruthlessness. If there is a
robbery, it is not, with certain exceptions, because the thief enjoys the
crime, but because he feels robbed by society which denied him the right to
have his own house,to till the land without paying rent, and to fully enjoy
the liberty which Nature gives instinctingly.
The waste of fuel under the present system is alarming. Cars, which could
carry several people, are usually driven by one person who, in the majority of
cases, is merely amusing himself, whereas the person who is working has no
means of transport. The avid desire for profit and business create a demand
for petrol, oil, tyres, etc. If the structure of society were changed, the
traffic that now blocks the roads in the rush hour would disappear, leading to
economy in both fuel and vehicles.
Man could work less than a year in his whole life, and yet live better than
the richest man on Earth. But for human society, even progress is dangerous.
If automation is developed, men will die of hunger owing to unemployment. Yet
even the manual labour that men do today could be done by obedient and
indefatigable electronic brains. These "robots" could plough, sow, spread
insecticide and fertilisers, prune and reap. If they sensed an ailing plant,
they would be able to judge whether it should be treated or whether it
constituted a danger for other plants and should be uprooted. These "robots'
could be developed to a point where they would be able to drive vehicles
automatically without danger of collision or accident, they could pilot planes
with safety, informing base about any possible defects, and taking steps to
repair them in full flight.
They could be used to measure metabolism and act as doctors supplying
For less than the amount of money that is spent on smoking every year, you
could do away with cancer; for a tenth of the money spent on drinks you can
banish leprosy from the face of the Earth, and tuberculosis would no longer be
a subject for statistics.
Control of the atmosphere could regulate the climate avoiding natural
catastrophes, and saving crops.
Electric cells could be placed in streets to absorb all irritating noises.
Education could be changed. Naturally, any radical change would involve the
dismissal of teachers which in the present world situation would mean that
they would suffer serious privation.
Today most people spend the best part of their lives, from the age of seven
until about thirty, poring over books, and at the end of this, they are
chagrined to find that they have learned nothing, and still have a long way to
go. A lifetime is too short to learn everything.
However, using hypnosis in a truly scientific spirit, the whole scope of
education could be changed. In a few hours a child could master a whole
subject which at present takes the better part of its youth to master.
Further, he would do so with great accuracy. It would be sufficient to put a
child into a controlled hypnotic sleep, with the help of a drug such as
canabissativa, or a combination of chloroform and morphia, administered at
intervals with a psychologist at hand to dictate all the material to be
learned. This could be carried out on a large scale with thousands of pupils
at once, making use of headphones. It would be easier, more convenient, and
cheaper, and it would not bore a child with long lectures, it would not be
subject to the shortcomings of the teachers, and other disadvantages of the
present system. Pupils could go to college early, sleep and come back with a
scientific degree in their pockets. Do you think this is too short a time to
learn so much? Surely a teacher would not be able to dictate enough in that
time. The spirit pays no heed to the concepts of time and space, an eternity
can be condensed into a second, or a second can be made into an eternity. One
could create the system of rapid transmission. Human thought waves work on a
band of about 5mm wavelength. If electrical messages were sent within this
band in successive waves, the whole of human knowledge could be transmitted in
a very short time.
The same method could be used to do away with atavistic tendencies and
criminal tendencies. In hypnotic sleep the mind becomes receptive and ready to
learn and profit by sound teaching. One could go further and break down the
barrier between the conscious and the subconscious. However, this would
require considerable technique which could only be mastered in time, as there
is a risk of the concept of time disappearing from the mind altogether.
Prisons could be emptied, in the first place by deleting criminal
tendencies from the human mind so that no further malefactors would come into
being, and in the second because those with criminal tendencies already would
be re-educated. by the hypnotic process and reintegrated into society.
With its framework changed, society would overcome the moral prejudices
which dog its steps. Man would overcome death and old age would no longer
exist on Earth.
Q: How do we overcome death?
A: In order to overcome death, one needs to know the fundamentals of life.
It is the spirit which gives life to the body, and is bound magnetically to
The current flowing through a solenoid gives rise to a magnetic field which
draws the iron core into the coil. Any field must have a center to act as a
vehicle for the lines of force which it generates. Once it has attracted the
iron, the solenoid can be turned in any direction without the core falling
out. No visible bond is holding it, only lines of force, several thousand to
the square inch, which are not visible to the naked eye. The relationship
between spirit and the body is similar to that between the solenoid and the
iron core. The body corresponds to the solenoid and its current can be
measured with an encephalograph; the spirit represents the iron core.
If the magnetic field made by the body is interrupted, or its lines of
force broken, or if the electric current which feeds it stops flowing, then
the spirit is freed. This is death.
However, if the lesion which gave rise to the interruption could be cured
by suitable apparatus, the field would be restored, and the spirit, if we
called it back, would return and unite with matter, falling again into the
restored magnetic field. For this, one would use human or vegetable ectoplasm
which would cure the injured part.
Death is therefore a defect which can be overcome. I do not mean to say
that man could live eternally, but he could get as far as making Methuselah
envious. He did not live longer because the Flood swallowed him up, but if
mankind were good, the forces of Nature, instead of destroying man would
continue to preserve his life.
I have told you what I think from the material point of view, but I could
tell you much more from the spiritual point of view, exploring avenues which
science, up to the present, has not even dreamed of. You showed a preference
for the material point of view. You got what you asked for.
The Atomic Danger
Q: Please tell me why you think our use of atomic energy is dangerous?
A: I do not say that the use of atomic energy is a danger to Humanity. What
I do say is that aggressive hatred coupled with atomic energy will destroy the
There are two sides to every picture. It depends which you choose.
Electrical energy is useful to man, as it turns motors, runs factories,
produces abundant light, and in fact supplies, all the requirements of modem
life. Yet it is also used m electric chairs to take another's life.
Dynamite can also be put to peaceful uses, breaking up rocks, mining,
making canals, etc.; but it is also used in weapons of war.
Aviation represents a step forward on the road to peace, and the
brotherhood of man, yet it is used to rain destruction on cities, bringing
death to many homes, orphaning thousands of innocent children who know nothing
of the commercial interests of the potentates of Earth.
In the story of Croesus, all that he touched was turned to gold; mankind is
a Croesus in reverse. If he touches the pure gold which God offers him, he
turns it to filth that pollutes the world.
Atomic energy is a gift of God, when used sparingly and for peaceful ends.
Its wanton use and its application to war could mean the complete and utter
extinction of the life as we know it today on this planet.
The last chapter of atomic energy has not yet been written neither on Earth
nor in any other part of the Universe. It cannot, in fact, be written by
anyone because it has no end. You are, then, still beginners in this vast
subject. Soon you will use hydrogen, nuclear fusion, and then gamma rays, as
means of destruction. If you do not destroy the globe with hydrogen bombs, you
will do so by other more powerful means. One day the end will come. If nothing
else, when you discover the magnetic effects of the planets, you will destroy
everything. Put a monkey in a laboratory and see what happens.
The people of Earth have two roads ahead: life or death. May they make a
Q: Do you mean to say that atomic energy is good, except when used for
warlike purposes? In that case, its effect can only be harmful from the moral
point of view, but not inherently harmful.
A: I meant both. The moral aspect is obvious, but I implied the material
Q: What is its effect upon the material order of things?
A: In a short time you will have hydrogen bombs of devastating power.
Remember I told you that in the upper regions of the atmosphere physiochemical
reactions take place which prevent the penetration of rays from the Sun. These
layers not only filter radioactivity, but also maintain the Earth in space.
One must often admire man's acts of generosity, when he becomes good and is
endowed with intelligence. At other times he shows himself to be a fool. If a
slight increase in solar activity disturbs life on Earth, changing human
beings, Hertzian waves, climate, etc., how much more harm can be done by an
increase in radioactivity directly injected into the heart of Earth by
Solar disturbances are periodic and their effects soon disappear because
they are the result of waves; but radioactivity produced by hydrogen bombs has
a lasting effect, because atomic dust remains in suspension and takes time to
fall. While in suspension it damages the higher layers; when it falls it
A planet is a delicate organism, whose natural equilibrium cannot be upset
with impunity. This excess radioactivity begins by influencing men's brains,
upsetting them noticeably. Soon you will see madness range over the Earth.
The use of hydrogen bombs will unleash the horsemen of the Apocalypse, who
were designated for that day and hour. Elements now unknown will appear and
poison the vegetation and, consequently, men and animals. The seas will be
poisoned and the fish will die. Water will be contaminated at its source,
because it will fall from radioactive clouds. Showers of particles will fall
to Earth and the crops will perish.
Moreover, the atmospheric layers will be changed. Upon their composition
depends the stability of the planet. They will then cease to produce light and
affect the luminosity of the Sun. They will no longer be able to filter the
solar emanations and the Sun will turn black and you will experience
There will be Dantesque scenes. It will be then that Earth's people
discover how wrong was the theory based on the fixed speed of light at 186,000
miles per second. Earth will be subject to energy in the form of ultraviolet
waves, with speeds of millions of miles per second.
Meanwhile, in spite of this intense solar energy, there will be no light,
but only a rusty red glow near the ground. Man will suffer from terrible cold,
but his flesh will be burned as with a hot iron by actinic radiation. If man
looks at the Sun, his eyes will be destroyed.
The upper layers of the atmosphere produce or prevent earthquakes. A major
alteration of these would make the whole Earth tremble and its cities will
collapse like a pack of cards; a quaking earth below, and darkness and burning
Enormous waves will form on the seas, compressed violently by the solar
energy. The poles will be subject to greater solar pressure and will melt,
raising the level of the seas so that people in maritime cities would be
struck with terror. The roaring of the waters will play a fearful duet with
the groaning of the earth.
The present rate of atomic explosions has already caused the mean heat of
the Earth to increase, and it will continue to do so at the rate of 0.3 degree
C. each year. If there were to be a hydrogen war, there would be pandemonium.
Radioactivity in the upper layers is already enough to melt the polar caps
and flood low-lying cities.
In twenty years there will be a difference of 6C. Before then, all the ice
of the poles will have melted.
Strange diseases will appear. The liver is a living laboratory and on being
attacked by the ingestion of radioactive elements scattered about the world,
it will lose its ability to produce the elements for bodily defences.
Leukaemia will destroy children who have not reached puberty, as well as
old people whose sex force is spent. Cancer will spread rapidly. Ghastly
pestilence will attack the skin and the eyes and there would be no cure.
Nursing mothers will weep with sorrow, knowing that their milk, which
should nourish the child, carries lethal poisons which will destroy its bones
and bring leukaemia. Many, unable to withstand such suffering, will seek
death, cursing life and those who launched such despair upon the world.
Then humanity will see whither progress without God has brought them
maniacs in the streets, the maimed everywhere, hospitals overflowing,
cemeteries full, larders empty, millions destroyed by war, orphaned children,
ravaged cities, contaminated fields, poisoned waters, terrorised multitudes,
plague, terror, blasphemy, grief, desolation. On Earth, people in anguish; in
the Heavens the Cosmic Laws upset.
Will you not understand that only spiritual progress linked to God can be
of any value, and lead mankind on the road to peace? Will you not yet see that
only love can uplift man to reach eternity?
But this is not all. While atomic potential is being prepared in your
arsenals to destroy Earth at one blow, guided missiles will be improved.
The day will come when armies will lose their raison d'dtre, navies will be
useless, and even the most advanced air force will be obsolete.
Men will destroy themselves by pressing buttons. Then the great danger will
threaten. In a moment, like a flash of lightning, a cloud of flame could
annihilate all life of Earth.
For a rocket, to get from one continent to another, needs to climb to
heights where only pure hydrogen exists. There would be a hydrogen bomb in the
nose of this rocket. Now, in the upper layers of the atmosphere, atomic
reactions are subject to different laws. Magnetic fields are weaker and the
bomb more easily triggered off. The critical mass and the critical distance
are not the same. The great mass of pure hydrogen in the upper regions and the
whole earth would be transformed into a blazing inferno. Even with a bomb
working with heavy hydrogen alone, the homogeneous medium would ensure the
sudden transformation of these layers into helium. That would be the end.
Perhaps it would be better than a slow ending.
If this should happen, the prophecy of Saint Peter, written in the last
chapter of his second letter, would be fulfilled: "But the day of the Lord
will come as a thief in the night, in which the Heavens shall pass away with a
great noise and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the Earth also....
shall be burned up."
No one will know when this day will be, because the blow would be struck by
surprise, without formal declaration of hostilities. Men will think they are
safely leading a normal life, when a madman presses the button, stabbing the
Earth and murdering its inhabitants. Man, for having sown all these years,
life without God, shall shortly reap a harvest of tares, because the ears of
science are ripening already.
Q: What are the elements which will bring about changes in the liver,
A: The radioactive elements will cause changes in proteins and these will
attack the liver. Radioactive carbon will alter the metabolism. Cobalt, which
normally helps to prevent anaemia, will, in this radioactive state, destroy
the blood cells. An isotope of strontium will unite with calcium and affect
the bones. Phosphorus, which is concentrated in the brain, will reach motor
nerve centres and radioactive iodine will work its way into the main glands of
the body. Radioactive aluminium and magnesium will influence the sex-glands.
Because of the destruction of parts of the hypothalamus, man will suffer from
terrible hunger, but there will be nothing to eat; others will 'have an
uncontrollable sexual desire. If the activity of the thyroid is impaired, it
will upset the balance with the adrenal glands, which will either produce an
excess of adrenalin or none at all.
Q: What has the thyroid got to do with the adrenals?
A: In the case of a tiger, whose existence in the wild state depends on his
ferocity, the adrenals are twice the size of the thyroid, whereas in man, the
thyroid is large and the adrenal small. The relationship is obvious.
Q: Is all this a mere possibility, or is it all inevitable?
A: That is something I cannot answer. It is up to you on Earth to decide
whether all this stays in the realm of possibility,or whether you turn it into
Man has free will. No one can tell him what he must do.
The only thing I can say is that these will be the consequences. Do not do
as the sorcerer's apprentice did, not knowing what he was toying with.
Men are letting off bombs, not realising that their effects are not always
immediate. It is like the saturation point in chemistry; one can keep putting
drops into a liquid without anything happening; then, suddenly the critical
point is reached and the whole solution changes. From then on, it is
impossible to control the reaction.
Persistent radioactivity in the upper layers of the atmosphere produces the
same effect. No one has gone high enough up from the Earth to measure and
observe what is happening. If you could have known Earth's luminosity before,
seen from outside, and could observe it now, you would see a difference. The
radioactive dust which stays in the stratosphere already gives rise to fear
for the future of men.
If bomb tests continue, one day war will be thrust upon you, bringing with
it increased radioactivity. Let Earth's scientists explode bombs for another
fifteen years and you will see the result of their madness. It will be too
late. If anyone could calculate the effect of two hundred hydrogen bombs upon
the uppermost layer of the ionosphere, he would want to shout from the
housetops to put an end to this folly.
Unhappily, my friend, Earth is in the hands of raving lunatics; they are
unbalanced enough to accuse us of lying if we tell the truth. Evil must come,
but woe to him who commits it. His fate is sealed. He should not imagine that
he will not be called to account for lives he has sacrificed to one interest
or another. We all expect a day of reckoning, when we shall be called upon to
account for the gifts that the Creator gave us.
The good need not worry, because God will know how to deliver them in the
hour of peril. The just will not suffer for the sinner. This only happens
once, and it happened a long time ago. If it were so decided, we ourselves
could evacuate Earth and remove the worthy from it. We have thousands of
saucers, each one capable of carrying thousands of people. However, we cannot
intervene unless this be decided from on High, when we would be told whom to
deliver from this hell. Rest assured that the just shall not be forsaken,
because unseen eyes watch over this little planet and they know full well who
acts without evil intent.
Pick up your Bible, and read how Lot was delivered from Sodom when it was
about to be destroyed, and see the parallel. Read, also, how Enoch and Elijah
were carried up in a chariot of fire. There is therefore no difficulty at all
about this, and if we were to receive such an order we would carry it out to
Furthermore, if it were decided from on High that Earth ought to be
destroyed we would trust in the wisdom of this decision and carry out the
orders without hesitation. We would never question them. We would do as
Abraham did, when he was ready to sacrifice his son to do the will of God. We
could, in a second, raze this planet and leave nothing alive on its surface.
The planet would be sacrificed in the twinkling of an eye.
We have the means and we know how to use them. If Earth, after only a
century of scientific progress, can develop so great a destructive power, how
much greater must ours be; for at a time when Earth's people had not even
attained to knowledge of mathematics, we were already making interplanetary
voyages, with cosmic energy for propulsion.
Q: But could this happen? Would anyone be capable of ordering our
A: Perfectly well. It is not right that man's folly should endanger the
stability of the planetary system and destroy the lives of others far away.
The entry of a new Sun into our system will be less dangerous than the
explosion of the Earth's hydrogen cover. It would wreak havoc on several
inhabited planets. The unbalance of forces would be fatal to many, if it
happened suddenly. Then there would only be one preventive measure;
destruction of all living matter of Earth. It would be rendered sterile in a
matter of seconds. However, I am not in a position to make decisions of such
magnitude, nor, for that matter, is any inhabitant of any planet.
The time has come for scientists to stop and think, for man to cease
thinking of himself as the Lord of Creation and come down from the pedestal
his vanity has put him on, and realise that as he has been in the habit of
oppressing the weak, the time could well come when someone stronger shall
The conquest of other planets and the subjugation of their inhabitants has
already been mooted. This is the height of human impertinence. It would also
be suicide. We would like to draw the attention of these people to the chapter
of Isaiah which reads as follows: "How thou art fallen from Heaven, O
Lucifer, sun of the morning For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend
into Heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God. I will sit also
upon the Mount of the Congregation in the sides of the North. I will ascend
above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt
be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit" (Isaiah I: 14: xii-xv).
We could also remind you of what happened to the men of Babel who tried to
reach the Heavens with their tower. Today this tower again threatens the
Heavens, and is represented by Earthly science; let us hope there will be no
need for us to knock it down.
So long as men waged their petty wars of conquest, we tolerated it all. We
merely kept our distance, avoiding further contact with those who could not
understand us. Now man constitutes a serious risk for everybody, and tomorrow
it may be worse.
I do not know how all this will end; I do not even know whether men will
mend their ways, and far less whether a superior intelligence will go on
tolerating them much longer, or will resolve to act. I am a being of very
limited attainment and it is not within my grasp to say what should be the
fate of Earthly things. But it is time for man to stop and think. A little
thought costs nothing.
Enough of this folly. Away with these crimes. His salvation is our
salvation, may he not force us to an act of desperation; may he not lead us
into evil. May he not bring us to the violence which we so thoroughly condemn
and which we would eternally rue. Let him live and allow us to live.
We know your affairs better than you know them yourselves; we know when the
war leaders meet and what they plan. We are present at your cabinet meetings;
we know the hypocrisy with which they exchange platitudes; we read their
motives. Rest assured that we would act before they endangered us. We have
orders to defend ourselves.
We have done everything possible to show that there are powers superior to
those on Earth; we wished to show men that the possession of power does not
give rein to violence and that we have no desire to seize the planet. We have
flown high, low, singly and in formation. We have performed aerobatics over
cities, air bases, fortifications. I personally received an order to move in
against an armed aircraft which was rash enough to open fire against my craft.
But nothing convinces men on Earth…..
Let him continue along the atomic road he is following. One day the end
Someone, either we, or man himself will press a button to end the story of
a humanity which preferred to die rather than to live happily in accordance
with the laws of God.
LIFE ON OTHER WORLDS
Q: Are all the planets inhabited?
A: Some are and some are not. In our system the following are inhabited:
Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. Jupiter and Saturn are
not inhabited, as they have no atmosphere. Jupiter has one, but we cannot
consider it as such, as it has virtually no depth, and Saturn has none at all.
It is a sphere of low density, almost entirely composed of heavy gases, with a
small solid centre. It is a world in formation. As it solidifies it will
contract, liberating the elements that will eventually form its atmosphere. It
could he that the entry of another Sun into our system will bring about a
"cracking" process, by which the denser elements will be precipitated.
Jupiter, also, is a new body which recently developed a rarefied
However, it is still unsuitable for life.
As these bodies become more dense they will move closer to the
gravitational center of our system, in view of the fact that their diameters
decrease and their density increases. They will thus be increasingly subject
to attraction, and decreasingly subject to repulsion. However, many of
Jupiter's and Saturn's satellites are inhabited.
Q: But can Mercury support life, when it is so near the Sun?
A: Certainly. Its great etheric mass filters the rays of the Sun. Bear in
mind that whereas Earth's etheric covering extends a mere 250,000 miles,
Mercury's extends 390,000 miles.
God-or Nature, whichever you like to say-covers bodies to keep out cold,
but in our case the opposite takes place, the greater the heat, the greater
the covering. If you calculate the speed of solar rays in space as I showed
you by checking the difference between the luminosity of the rising Sun and
the Sun at zenith, with the equatorial radius of the Earth as a base, you will
see that Mercury, subject to intenser radiation, has been given an etheric
covering exactly large enough to filter these rays to a point where they fill
into the visible spectrum on reaching the surface of the planet.
From the calculation we made together you saw that the farther bodies are
from the Sun, the less covering they have, until we come to Saturn, which has
none at all. Up to that point the ether and atmosphere are there to filter the
rays of the Sun. From Saturn outwards, however, the planets again acquire an
etheric cover on an increasing scale, no longer with the object of filtering
the Sun's rays, but to produce a positive reaction to them, so as to provide
sufficient heat to maintain life. So the atmospheric and etheric compositions
of these planets are not the same as those of planets on this side of Saturn.
The amount of diffused light is much greater than on Earth. Their
atmosphere, though rarefied, is a good conductor of heat, which may seem
absurd to you.
Q: I find it hard to see how a distant planet can have an atmosphere
sensitive to the rays of the Sun, in view of the tiny fraction of light they
A: There are many kinds of light. Its origin can also be chemical. Certain
species of vegetation emit light under bacteriological action. Insects produce
quite a strong light by utilising their own internal enzyme reactions. You can
make cold light by electrical discharges through gas.
Why then deny that Nature has other methods of giving life to a planet? Put
an electric charge through a tube of hydrogen and it will produce a bluish
light; mix other gases with the hydrogen and you will obtain other kinds of
What more spectacular demonstration could one wish for than that which
takes places when one mixes a small quantity of chlorine with water, and then
subjects the mixture to a ray of light. This will give rise to a violent
explosion and emission of light and heat.
If similar reactions were produced within the atmosphere of the planets,
avery small ray of light could produce a tremendous reaction with vast
Q: Have the beings on these planets a material form?
A: What do you expect them to be made of? They cannot be made of energy
because only spirit is energy.
Q: But is our constitution very different from that of the people of other
A: There are differences, but the Human form is Nature's chosen form. The
metablism of a man from Pluto is not precisely the same as that of an
inhabitant of Mercury. Nevertheless one can visit the other and remain alive
for a long period. A fish lives in a dense medium, but can keep itself alive
for a certain time by breathing air. But the difference between Pluto's and
Mercury's atmospheres is not nearly as great as that between air and water, so
one could stay alive a long time.
Q: But has gravity no effect?
A: None. Gravity is an illusion, like others you entertain. We discussed
how gravity is a combination of phenomena, wherein an important part is played
by the atmospheric covering which is responsible for differences in density.
But we also came to the conclusion that all inhabited planets have an
atmosphere, so the difference is a small one. All have warmth, too, either by
solar radiation or by chemical reaction.
The principal factor in gravity is the vertical component of magnetism, but
the difference between one planet and another is insufficient to prevent
interchange between people of different planets.
Q: As regards appearance, what are the chief differences between the people
of the various planets?
A: We cannot say, for example, that the people of Mercury are tall or
short. There are all sorts, as you have pigmies. However, their maximum
stature is 5 ft. 10 in. They are strong, dark, intelligent, energetic and
active, with small eyes, no beards, low foreheads, well made noses. On Venus
they reach 6 ft. They belong to various races, predominantly a fair type.
Their bodies are well made, but they are the most like Earth people, both in
appearance and in spirit. They are energetic, talkative, kindly, and above
all, spiritually minded.
On Mars there are two root races; one fair and one dark. The fair race is
the most tractable and gentle. The dark race is composed of people who are
short of stature and of a lively disposition. They are the gayest in the
planetary system. There is no life on Jupiter, only on its satellites. But
there is a great variety of life on these heavenly bodies. There are all
sizes, from men of 7 ft.4in. down to Lilliputian beings. But we all live in
the same family. The little people are in the majority.
There is no life on Saturn either. Due to its lack of atmosphere, its
surface will be riddled with meteorites. Two of its satellites are inhabited.
There the men are intelligent and kind. They have their space crafts, but they
do not use them much. For you these beings would be quite inexplicable because
they never die. They possess what one might call the body of resurrection.
They never commit any sin, yet they are material beings. They are tall, with
large magnetic eyes. Not even we can fathom all their wisdom, they are
On Uranus and Neptune the inhabitants are very similar. They are tall and
muscular, well built, with large eyes and very well developed heads.
Organically they function in a different way from the inhabitants of other
planets. They do not feed on heavy substances as we do, but on liquids or
gases, and their blood is different.
On Pluto life is very similar to that on Earth. The people are identical in
nearly everything. But not withstanding their advanced intelligence, they
incline to evil and neglect God. They allow their baser instincts to rule
them. They learned to travel though space a long time ago. They do not war
among themselves-war, alas, only exists on Earth. But they are dangerous
beings, and any instances of saucers doing harm to people on Earth can be
attributed to them.
The only reason they do not harm any other inhabitants of the system is
because they know that these other beings are more evolved, and any attempt at
conquest would be fatal. But their fate is sealed.
The people of Earth have committed many misdeeds, and this planet is
regarded as the centre of evil, but its inhabitants are yet in their infancy,
and in the dawn of their intelligent life, with the exception of a small elite
who have settled down here as teachers. For this reason, God will punish
humanity, but with moderation, without expelling this planet from the solar
system. Those who cannot adjust themselves to the higher order of things will
be evacuated from the planet, leaving it in the possession of others who will
be like the inhabitants of the satellites of Saturn. As for Pluto, justice
will take its full course. Evil will not be allowed to continue indefinitely.
The transgression of law is not a natural phenomenon, because if it were a
basic condition for the evolution of individuals of various worlds, then it
would itself become a law. It is absurd to think that evil should itself be a
law. There are only two tenets that can claim immortality on any inhabited
world, these are love of God and love of one's neighbour. Anything that
departs from these tenets is a transgression. The in-habitants of Pluto were
fully aware of divine laws, but chose to ignore them. They became prey to
sexual pleasure and as a direct result of this laid themselves open to other
sins such as idolatry, sodomy, rebellion and disrespect for the physical
integrity of others, and so fell under the whole sway of evil. It is like an
avalanche, which can start off with the fall of a small stone, and finish up
as a complete landslide.
For this reason, Pluto will be torn away from this system, and 'will wander
towards the nearest constellation. Its inhabitants will suffer untold horror
and will not be able to escape. They will be degraded to the state of cave men
under atrocious conditions. The splendour of their cities, their rapid
transport systems, brilliant lighting and communications and, in fact, all
that a highly intelligent humanity can attain to through millennia of constant
progress, beyond your imagination, will be written off and crumble into ruin
like historical Babylon, with its hanging gardens.
Then our system 'will return to normal and we shall become as one large
family, all under the banner of love.
Q: As far as I can gather from your statements, Earth will be left with a
Humanity similar to the inhabitants of Saturn's satellites. Does this mean
Human beings will be changed?
A: This is exactly what I wanted to convey. Human beings have gone as far
as they can go. Their intelligence cannot go beyond the normal senses.
You talk in terms of biological evolution, but let us see if this is true
or not. There should be a pari-passu development between intelligence and the
physical body if this theory were true. Whereas intelligence has reached a
high stage of development, the body has been attacked by strange diseases
which are on the increase. We thus get a picture of mental development
accompanied by physical atrophy.
The Human Race has reached a point in its development where it should
disappear. Races are like men with their infancy and adolescence, maturity,
old age and death. The physical body as it is would not give intelligence very
much more room for development. Earthly science and techniques will reach such
an advanced stage that the brain will no longer be able to cope with the
problems involved, which may have to be done by machines. Does this imply that
inanimate machinery is superior to spirit? Not at all. But this requires the
appearance of a new race on Earth, composed of beings with sufficient brain
power to grasp all the increasingly complex problems associated with progress.
These bodies would have the capacity to take a further step along the path to
How can you talk of indefinite progress when you are bound to a body of
limited capacity and of a low order. It is wrong to say that Nature does not
progress by sudden leaps. Its progress is based almost entirely on this, as,
for example, in the chemical combinations of carbon and hydrogen. Knowledge is
garnered until, at a given instant, there is an integral transformation of
brain and body.
If one adds an atom of hydrogen to an atom of oxygen, the result is still a
gas, but if a further atom of hydrogen is added, there is a sudden
transformation and they cease to be gases and turn into liquid. The same thing
happens in the case of carbon and hydrogen. CH2 is a gas, and we can go on
adding to either element without anything happening until we get to C2H4 when
there is a sudden transformation and the gas changes its characteristics
radically. There was no gradual change in the gas, but it preserved its
characteristics until sufficient elements were added to bring about the sudden
In life the process is the same. Many races are buried in the life cycle of
a planer. Earthly science, believing in natural selection, sought for the
links in the chain of evolution. It did not find them, and never will find
them, because they do not exist. It finds many things which are not links,
which proves their non-existence. It is strange that all races have left their
traces on Earth, except those that constituted the links in the evolutionary
chain. Why should Nature have played such a trick to hide them if everything
that exists is for man's enlightenment? This, therefore, is not what happens.
When a race is no longer capable of keeping up the struggle against
constantly changing climate and circumstance, then the race disappears like
any other living thing. If a sun has its old age and disintegration, then why
should this not also apply to a race?
What is impossible for man is easy for God. He can cause a planet to be
inhabited in a moment.
Q: But how can a planet come to be inhabited if all its people have
A: God performs an act of resurrection.
A: Spirit acts on matter and fashions it to its will. In seances where such
super-physical phenomena are commonplace, the spirit manipulates the ectoplasm
of a passive agent and moulds from it a body which is visible to the living.
Its organism is real and its activity can be controlled. It has all the organs
that a normal individual has. After manifestation the ectoplasm is generally
reabsorbed by the passive agent, and disappears. However, it would only need
an act of will on its part to continue living a life of its own. In many of
these cases of manifestation, hairs and pieces of clothing have been left and
preserved intact. If such fragments can remain in existence, there is no
reason why a whole body should not remain. It would only have to sever its
connection with the passive agent.
If God were to ordain that a new race should populate the Earth, the
spirits could manipulate the ectoplasm of the Earth itself and create bodies
from it, far superior to those of the present race. These new beings would
have fantastic bodies and brains. This is the act of resurrection I spoke of.
If ordinary spirits of a lower order can mould a body in accordance with their
will, how much greater then would be the power of God, should He decide to
repopulate the Earth?
Q: Does this mean to say that the present race came into being in this way?
A: There is no doubt about it. Adam was in fact moulded from the dust of
the Earth, that is to say, from its ectoplasm. The ancient race had used up
the whole of its evolutionary energy, and there had to be an intervention of
the heavenly powers which created the new race. This event is very clearly
depicted in the case of Eve. God caused Adam to fall into a deep sleep, using
him as the passive supplier of ectoplasm, and the body of Eve was moulded from
this. She was, indeed, flesh of Adam's flesh, and the Biblical narrator is
correct when he stated that woman was moulded from Adam's rib.
Q: But is not ectoplasm a by-product of the nervous system? How could it be
drawn from the Earth?
A: Everything is drawn from the Earth. Vegetables also have their ectoplasm
and their roots draw it up from the soil. If any power were capable of forming
a new body, surely it would draw the necessary elements for it from the
ground. It would be a slight on the powers of the Supreme Spirit to think that
He who made matter should not also have the power to make ectoplasm.
Q: If there were an atomic disaster, and the planet became uninhabitable,
how could the spirit mould new bodies that could keep alive?
A: Life could well be impossible for the body as it is now, but on the
other hand it could be ideal for other bodies. God creates types of beings to
suit the medium in which they are placed. Earthworms live in the same world as
man, but the soil is their ideal medium; fish live in water; the amphibian can
live in air or water; the eagle prefers heights where the atmosphere is
If life now manifests itself in various forms, do you think Nature has run
through her repertoire and exhausted her possibilities on Earth? A lion would
die in the Arctic, whereas a bear is quite happy there. Whether the Earth is
covered with ice, whether it becomes too hot, whether it is radioactive or
not, Nature will in every case devise an appropriate life form. And if Nature,
with this wonderful power of creation, were supplemented by a spiritual power,
what marvels could it not perform?
Man will have to disappear from the face of the Earth, and Homo Sapiens
will be replaced by spiritual man, so long as he allows Nature to effect this
transformation quietly on her own. When the first man of the present race, who
was the resurrection of a dying race, made his appearance on the planet, there
were still some men of the old race left who were dying off. There was no
total disappearance of living beings from the planet. However, Homo Sapiens
appears to be in a hurry to get to the end of his career and to deprive Nature
of its right to put an end to him by exhaustion. Perhaps it is just because he
is bent on self-destruction.
We met at the Roosevelt station in Sao Paulo. To begin with we continued
our discussion on various scientific subjects, and later talked about ethics
and religion. Then he said to me: "Now I am going. If you wish to see me
again, meet me on Angatuba Avenue between November 14th and 17th, 1956. Should
there be any hitch from your side, I will see you again in 1959 if you are
still here. Once again I shall keep my word.
"I should like you to always remember one thing, do not attach too much
importance to all the scientific things we have talked about. Science is only
a means of giving us certain facilities, and of teaching us how to use the
forces of Nature. Seek that science which will bring happiness to all, and
above all seek God because only He has meaning in the Universe. Love is the
"What shall it avail man if he knows all things and all the secrets of the
Universe, if he should lose his soul? Science is like a law, it is only
beneficial when it guarantees the tights of man, and when it protects,
shelters and serves him. If it loses its protective character and becomes
oppressive, then it is time it was abolished and replaced by another. Such
laws cannot and should not be respected.
It is like the salt that Christ referred to, if the salt should lose its
savour and its strength, it should be cast away. Science exists so that man
may live well and that there should be an abundance of all things. But if this
science, instead of being a gift of God, should become a source of destruction
to the Human Race, then it should be put aside.
A man can live without science, enjoying all the things that Nature
provides; but with no spirit of compassion and respect for the lives of
others, life on Earth would be inexorably destroyed. God does not destroy
anyone, but man with the aid of science could destroy himself and his fellows.
"Do not seek the salvation of your soul through science. If this were a
means of spiritual progress, on this false basis, men would have arrived in
hell long ago. The possession of scientific knowledge has no significance.
Without it many could lead a spiritual life, but with it millions will meet
nothing but affliction. Of what use is knowledge that used a whole people as
guinea pigs, killing thousands, destroying innocent people and bringing grief
to those Japanese cities whose names remain as milestones on the road to
"It is to no avail. All of us who travel through space, men from different
planets, are moved when we see those cities and never tire of saying that here
was where the first blow of brute power struck the Earth and its inhabitants.
"Here are the paths which lead to Armageddon. Here Christian people crucify
Jesus again and proclaim the supremacy of the Beast who is to rule the Earth.
It is a pity that Human beings have insufficient scientific knowledge to
dominate all Nature, and not be as poor as they are now. Since science is a
great evil for them, it would be better to live without it, because then they
would at least live.
"It is preferable to live in ignorance and allow others to live than for
all to be drowned as a result of a little knowledge.
"They worship Christ in vain and fruitlessly pay homage to Him. The only
thing that He wishes is that they should love one another. Man should not pray
so much with pretty words; God is not moved by rhetoric. Rather should they
make a constant prayer of their own lives and their love for their neighbour.
"There is yet time to save the world, an opportunity is always given to him
that repents. There is no criminal who cannot be pardoned. If the crime is
great, God's love is greater still. If man needed time to be pardoned, God
could make a fraction of a second into an eternity. Divine acts are not
subordinate to time and space. This is the reason why some criminals, in a
moment of repentance, become saints and martyrs. For an instant they departed
from the ways of evil with all the power of their heart, and by divine action
this second's repentance was made permanent.
"If God cares so much for a single soul, should He not care that much more
for humanity? Therefore pay more attention to spiritual things and use science
as a means of explaining them.
"I know that you will refuse to tell others about the meetings we have had,
but one day you will have to do so by force of circumstance. Do not imagine,
however, that when you do tell others, they will take much notice. Many have
spoken without any apparent result, and the only reward you should expect is
something which nobody can take away, because it exists within your heart
alone. But there may be someone unknown to you to whom your work will be of
"And now, farewell! I shall take with me some books in order to study
Earthly science a little more. When I return I will do my best to bring you
something in writing about our science and our ethics. Until that time we
shall be linked in thought."
"Supposing I am not here when you come back," I asked him.
"It would perhaps be better if you were not here, because then you would be
somewhere else where it would be easier for us to make contact. But do not
leave without telling your friends that life extends through the infinities of
space from sphere to sphere and from world to world, and that beyond death
there is hope and consolation. Tell them that wherever there is spirit, God
will have prepared a vehicle for it. In life, swans are mute, but they never
depart without a song."
He gave me his hand and took leave of me again. I would like to have
followed him to the place where he was to board his saucer, but he told me:
"Why follow me? Do not come with me. My saucer is quite close and it would not
be pleasant for you to see the circumstances in which I leave; you would be
upset. There is always a moment of separation and before I got into the saucer
you would no longer be able to see me. May God be with you."
I saw him vanish round a corner. I had a strong desire to follow him at any
cost, but decided that this would be disloyal to someone who had shown such
friendliness to me.
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